Techno is dead?

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Post by lola » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:40 pm

claudek wrote:Want a natural high?

Have sex and listen to a Carl Craig cd.
I rather have sex without music, and listen to the sound of an orgasm.

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Post by claudek » Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:07 pm

Well maybe u have to discuss it with Kraftwerk and sir may.

music non stop techno pop.
Why does everyone always have to link techno to Kraftwerk?... Maybe as it was a key to futurism..Futuristic music or art and development is techno to me. Music that can express mood and can create a almost visual experience. Techno to me is not music that is a over compressed 909 kick going.BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM..This is actually dated and why it sounds "dead"
Music that can give sense of maybe tomorrow.
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Post by lola » Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:29 pm

claudek wrote:
Well maybe u have to discuss it with Kraftwerk and sir may.

music non stop techno pop.
Why does everyone always have to link techno to Kraftwerk?... .
Cuz they trowed that little word techno in the air for the first time

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Post by robin » Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:46 pm

lola wrote:
claudek wrote:
Well maybe u have to discuss it with Kraftwerk and sir may.

music non stop techno pop.
Why does everyone always have to link techno to Kraftwerk?... .
Cuz they trowed that little word techno in the air for the first time
It was Juan Atkins wasn't it? Kraftwerk's techno-pop track came after Juan had coined the term.

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Post by sans soleil » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:37 pm

interesting...as people have mentioned, the word 'techno' has become bastardized to the point where it's pretty well meaningless...

i think that originally 'techno' was the sound of black detroit fusing funk with machines...a lot of what that music originally had was diluted or became mutated upon its migration to europe...i hate to put it this way, but i think that the soul that much of this earlier music had has been displaced by the need to be 'bangin'', and i agree that this is most likely closely related to the connection with drugs. someone made the point earlier that the 'original' guys (derrick may, etc.) weren't into doing any drugs at all...the music was related to a type of landscape rather than catering to a chemical buzz.

i still love a lot of electronic music, particularily the cologne sound, but i often think it's too bad that 'techno' as it once was never really developped as a/the sound of black america (of course there are exceptions, but i think it's a fair generalization)...i really would have liked to have seen what could have happened...

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Post by hambone1 » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:09 pm

I just downloaded Derrick May's "Strings of Life."

Fantastic! Now if THAT'S techno, I'm lovin' it, and I can now see how it was destroyed when the Europeans imported it.

The soul was sucked out of it, and had to be replaced with drug use/abuse just to make it listenable again.
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Post by martin808 » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:21 pm

hambone1 wrote: Derrick May's "Strings of Life."
that's techno, and thats the techno i love. the productions well off compared to what can be done nowadays but its got soul by the bucketload.

check out knights of the jaguar by dj rolando (aka the aztec mystik) ......

and then get some drexciya in your ears. the finest techno/electro i know of.

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Post by hoffman2k » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:22 pm

hambone1 wrote:I just downloaded Derrick May's "Strings of Life."

Fantastic! Now if THAT'S techno, I'm lovin' it, and I can now see how it was destroyed with the Europeans imported it.

The soul was sucked out of it, and had to be replaced with drug use/abuse just to make it listenable again.
Thats a bit blasphemous, figuring you've been to one of Berlin's hottest techno clubs.
I'll admit that the scenery was a bit unusual.
But the techno rocked :wink:

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Post by chis » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:34 am

martin808 wrote:
hambone1 wrote: Derrick May's "Strings of Life."
that's techno, and thats the techno i love. the productions well off compared to what can be done nowadays but its got soul by the bucketload.

check out knights of the jaguar by dj rolando (aka the aztec mystik) ......

and then get some drexciya in your ears. the finest techno/electro i know of.
May I also recommend - for a more recent example - Raiders Of The Lost Arp - 4. Atkins, eat your heart out! :wink:
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Post by martin808 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:35 am

raiders of the arp! i seen him in a tiny club in glasgow with a crowd of about 30 people about 2 years ago. he had his anologue synths blazing away live. he even had to stop between tracks to change all the synth parameters. amazing night! nice guy too.

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Post by hambone1 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:49 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Thats a bit blasphemous, figuring you've been to one of Berlin's hottest techno clubs.
I'll admit that the scenery was a bit unusual.
But the techno rocked :wink:
If that's the best it gets, I'm really disappointed...

The voyeur sex in the cubicles was more entertaining (the hetero, that is...)

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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:25 pm

hambone1 wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Thats a bit blasphemous, figuring you've been to one of Berlin's hottest techno clubs.
I'll admit that the scenery was a bit unusual.
But the techno rocked :wink:
If that's the best it gets, I'm really disappointed...

The voyeur sex in the cubicles was more entertaining (the hetero, that is...)
It's not as good as it gets. But the techno in that club was pretty descent.
Not too hard... Not too loopy...
It was mostly deep techno.

But i guess you where paying attention to something else :wink:

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Post by Hanil Yoo » Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:26 pm

I think techno will always be around because for some people repetition with slight variation just works. Have you ever grooved to your wind shield wipers or bopped to a distant machine clank. I have. Was I on drugs...nope.

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Post by claudek » Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:16 pm

Techno is a metaphor to everyday life: moody, repititious, emotional, hard, fast paced, and gets boring and interesting. As long as there is life, there is techno.
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Post by err_fatale » Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:16 pm

TECHNO IS DEAD!!!!!!


TECHNO WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!
i like techno i can dance to good techno in a club with 5 or 500 people. who cares, it sure beats emo, rock, hip-hop or country.....

is rock dead????? is techno dead????do you listen to it???do you like it????


NOW i think we can say that the TECHNO "scene" in USA is pretty much DEAD. YES. That much is true, not completely, but no one really likes it anymore, just a handful of people. Young kids don't understand it at all, they just listen to emo cuz that's what's cool. Play some Techno they'll shrug their shoulders and say they never heard of that DJ or producer before.....i see no interest in it at all from younger people.....girls a little more than dudes, but it has no image. Everyone is into the "myspace/emo" image thing now and techno has no image, there are no more raves and barely any clubs here and the kids have no idea what it is.

I think Drum and Bass is more successful because it has an image and faces to associate with the music, and it feels a hell of a lot like rock nowadays......

Techno will just become a very exclusive small scene with die-hards for a long time, but it is not for the masses....it's way too abstract and comprehension of it requires something most people don't have or want....


PATIENCE and the ability to listen!!!!!!!

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