cueing issues are severely pissing me off!!!!

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buchnaner
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cueing issues are severely pissing me off!!!!

Post by buchnaner » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:40 am

Here are my specs:

PowerBook G4
Live 4.0
Echo Indigo DJ
Novation X-Station

I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why in the bloody fuck I cannot cue with my equiptment. SO FRUSTRATING.

In Live I have my Master Out set to 1/2. Physically, I have a cord going from my 1/2 on my Indigo to my X-Station, which goes to my speakers.

In Live I have my Cue Out set to 3/4. Physically, I have my headphones plugged into 3/4 on my Indigo.

In Live I have the Master Track set to Cue.

I have two clips, one in Track 1 (crossfade assign A, audio to Master) and another in Track 2 (crossfade assign B, audio to Master).

When I launch the first clip, I slide the crossfade all the way to the left. Fine. I hear the track. Time passes and I want to cue the second track. So I click on the "headphone" cue button in the second track. Now I hear the track in my headphones, BUT I ALSO HEAR IT THROUGH MY MAIN SPEAKERS, even though there is no signal level appearing on the master volume. WTF. And when I slide the crossfader over to the right, the master volume gets louder and a signal level appears, as it should because I am fading the signal to the other track.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!! Please, can anyone help me with this, please please PLEASE? this shouldn't be this hard.... :( thanks

vinkalmann
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Post by vinkalmann » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:51 pm

I have a PC and the same card so I don't know if this will apply to you or not. On my system, the Echo card comes with a utility that allows you to mix a number of "virtual" channels down to the the four that the card supports. From what you described, you have the routing set up correctly in Live for what you're trying to do.

From the Echo site:

"A unique feature of the Indigo DJ is the use of "virtual" outputs. Indigo DJ appears to software as if it has eight separate outputs, which are digitally mixed down to the physical outputs using Indigo DJ's "console" software and its on-board DSP"

I hope this helps, sorry I couldn't be more helpful!

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Post by divonic » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:25 pm

vinkalmann sounds like you got it right.

buchnaner you need to set up the mixing utility for the Echo so that ASIO 3/4 goes to the one out on the card and ASIO 1/2 goes to the other. sound to me like currentlly you have all the ASIO outs from live going into the main out on the card. in live the echo has ASIO 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 and 7/8. all are going to the main output on the card. you just need to do the routing that you set up in live and second time in the card's utility.
vinkalmann wrote:I have a PC and the same card so I don't know if this will apply to you or not. On my system, the Echo card comes with a utility that allows you to mix a number of "virtual" channels down to the the four that the card supports. From what you described, you have the routing set up correctly in Live for what you're trying to do.

From the Echo site:

"A unique feature of the Indigo DJ is the use of "virtual" outputs. Indigo DJ appears to software as if it has eight separate outputs, which are digitally mixed down to the physical outputs using Indigo DJ's "console" software and its on-board DSP"

I hope this helps, sorry I couldn't be more helpful!

MW

buchnaner
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Post by buchnaner » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:36 am

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oi, this was driving me BATSHIT.

now...how come one cannot manipulate the cue volume in headphone? when cueing, the track's volume turns blue, and while I can turn the master volume up and down, the cue volume stays the same. what's the deal?

again, thank you so much for responding

buchnaner
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Post by buchnaner » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:48 am

nevermind, dumb question. b/c if the same slider controlled the cue and master mix, i wouldn't hear the cue when i have the master volume down. duh

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