Midi Controllers & Sound Cards for DJ'ing with Live

[rengel]

After almost a year of waiting around for an "un-named" company to deliver their modular controller (oops! did I give it away? ) I have decided to go for the following setup for DJ'ing within Live:

1. MAudio 410 Firewire Sound Card
2. Behringer BCF2000 (Fader version, for 'bringing in tracks, clips)
3. Behringer BCR2000 (Rotary version, for running 4band EQ, effects)

I would love the Xone 3D, but at almost $5,000AUD, I'm dreaming.

Atleast the equipment above will be a good start into Dj'ing in Live, once everything is mapped, and once I understand the application a bit more!

Does anyone have this setup (same as above) ???
Does it work for you?? Is it easy to link up a BCF and a BCR into live?
I figured just having 1 BCF isn't enough, I'd like to use the BCR for effects, etc.

Comments, thoughts?

R.

[donnydonny]

i bought that same setup originally (minus the BCR) and ended up not even using the BCF for live shows. i just patched all the outputs of the 410 into the dj mixer, and just used all the onboard fx and eq's. although i could still bring along the BCF and assign the whole unit a load of midi controls... i haven't really found a need or even a use for any of that stuff. my dj'ing's a little more traditional but with more looped crazy tricks via computer.

[rengel]

donny donny - how have you found the latency on the 410 maudio?
i've got a powerbook g4 with 1.5gb ram in the thing, running live 5.
should be ok?

im from a traditional dj background too...
just sold my cdj1000s and djm600 mixer, so hopefully will progress into something better with live, very much looking forward to creating my own sound rather than just playing other people's music

[exvinyljunkie]

bought that same setup originally (minus the BCR) and ended up not even using the BCF for live shows. i just patched all the outputs of the 410 into the dj mixer, and just used all the onboard fx and eq's. although i could still bring along the BCF and assign the whole unit a load of midi controls... i haven't really found a need or even a use for any of that stuff. my dj'ing's a little more traditional but with more looped crazy tricks via computer

donnydonny: I'm also a traditional DJ trying to switch to Live and the digital realm. can you tell me something about your 410, because I am thinking of buying one (just bought Live!, it's being sent).
Specifically, i was wondering (because I don't understand the specs that well) how much you can connect into and out of the 410.

-Can you run four tracks from ableton into 4 channels on a traditional dj mixer, and manipulate the levels and the highs/mids/lows from the eq on it? (while trigerring the track and manipulating other controls in live, etc. through a midi controller)
-and, are there enough inputs and outputs on it to run stanton's final scratch and Live on seperate computers, a midi controller and also add another midi sound device if i want to, or the Redsound beat Xtractor, etc?

really want to know how much I can pack into that soundcard (I need to buy one soon)

THANKS

[fsk]

you get 4 line stereo outputs, so yes you can connect 4 tracks from Ableton individually into the line ins on a hardware dj mixer like the xone32 or something. At the same time as twiddling knobs on the mixer EQ you can also use a midi controller aswell. Midi controller would be USB so has nothing to do with your Soundcard, unless you choose to run it on the midi input, which in that case... its also do-able.

I dont know anything about final scratch, you get 2x stereo line inputs, but thats all you get.

Just to let you know, if you are on MAC, you might have problems with an m-audio 410, theres been alot of talk of it being quite bad on macs, altho I aint seen many problems with WINDOWS, which is what Im on. If you want more info on that search the forum.