Is Reaktor 5 really that CPU hungry?

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Post by supster » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:38 pm

redrobot wrote:the more cpu hungry ensembles in Reaktor I tend to record with the audio recorder inside Reaktor and then drop the audio into Live afterwards.

faster: set up an audio channel as a "record" channel. whenever you want to record audio from any source arm this channel and route the source channel into it.

if you start transport with the record clips slot in your RECORD channel and also stop the clip recording from there, the clips will be perfectly cut according to your global quant value.

ive used most methods of bouncing audio at one time or another and recently i started doing it this way instead.

this is definitely the fastest and most versitile, great for bouncing reaktor .. way better than that finicky little recorder bro ..
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Post by Anarogue » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:40 am

I'm using about 20 instances of reaktor with my new track and there is only one word, FREEZE.

My lead synth made with a custom instrument uses about 50-60% CPU, so it must alway be frozen to even move something in live. I've got about 10 of those 50-60% frozen so if they unfreeze for whatever reason, boom!

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Post by MrYellow » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:47 am

Freeze = 20 instances of a WAV file.

Not quite the same as running multiple Reaktors in a live situation.

-Ben

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Post by Anarogue » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:21 am

MrYellow wrote:Freeze = 20 instances of a WAV file.

Not quite the same as running multiple Reaktors in a live situation.

-Ben
Well duh. There is no way in hell you can run multiple reaktor's live without it blowing up. Why would I do that live?

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Post by Anubis » Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:11 am

Anubis wrote:In my experience the lighter ones draw 20-25% whie others draw 40 to 45%. The ensembles generally appear to behave rather quirky and not as stable as other Vst's in hosts such as Live. I've found that they're consistently reliable only when used as standalone.
I have to qualify my previous post by adding that I was referring to the ensembles included in the Electronic Instruments 2 suite. For example, Metaphysical Function and Limelite. Nevertheless, they still draw 25 to 40% in standalone mode. And thats just what Reaktor itself reports. Windows task manager reports about 50% CPU usage with these bad boys- again, as standalone apps! And they are still very finicky inside of hosts. Most crash Wavelab when I try to open the FX versions. However, these are definately the craziest instruments I have ever come accross and well worth the 'baggage'.
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Post by linzatti » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:17 am

I got 38-40% on the performance test... Is this reasonable with a:

P4 3.0 Ghz (1mb L2 Cache)
1024 Ram 3200

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Post by ReverendShank » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:48 pm

Reaktor is a CPU eating beast, but it can be conquered. Try lowering your sample rate, this adds a downsampled distortion, great fot electro or drum and bass, or do as mentioned in another post and bounce your audio. There are also more efficient ensembles in the legacy library, which you have to unzip and install, but they all pale in comparison to the newer units. The only other way to fix the problems is to go in the enemble and edit it's construction to free up cpu.
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Post by Machinate » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:11 pm

Anarogue wrote:
MrYellow wrote:Freeze = 20 instances of a WAV file.

Not quite the same as running multiple Reaktors in a live situation.

-Ben
Well duh. There is no way in hell you can run multiple reaktor's live without it blowing up.[ ...]
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Post by djadonis206 » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:07 pm

Is R5 a CPU hog?

Not on my system, AMD 64 3200+ 1.5 gigs of ram on windows xp sp 2

so no -

I can run a a couple instances of reaktor and reaktor efx like space reverb or flat blaster

plus all my other usual plugs (mostly ableton plugs)

I can say I've never hit more than like 70%

Albino's big huge pads kill my cpu - goes all the way up to 1 million and my computer just about has a heart attack

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Post by linzatti » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:21 am

Have anyone experienced any stability improvements in the new 5.1 upgrade? Or did they just throw in a couple of new ensembles?

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Post by Benno » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:56 pm

i got caught out when i first bought my laptop. I was using Reaktor sessions on a 1.6 Dothan and i only had to play a three finger chord using Carbon and the thing would melt down.

I simply thought is was the way of the world until i discovered the BIOS. Pressing F2 during boot up opened the BIOS screen. After tooling around i found the advanced screen and found CPU power was set to low consumption, i guess this is the optimum setting for anyone wanting to use a laptop on the move.

Anyway, i switched it to high consumption and Jesus wept, the meter reading in Live dropped from max down to 10%!! I felt like a bloody idiot :oops:

Anyway, just thought id post this just incase any of you guys happen to be crap with computers like me. :lol:

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Post by linzatti » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:11 am

Benno wrote:i got caught out when i first bought my laptop. I was using Reaktor sessions on a 1.6 Dothan and i only had to play a three finger chord using Carbon and the thing would melt down.

I simply thought is was the way of the world until i discovered the BIOS. Pressing F2 during boot up opened the BIOS screen. After tooling around i found the advanced screen and found CPU power was set to low consumption, i guess this is the optimum setting for anyone wanting to use a laptop on the move.

Anyway, i switched it to high consumption and Jesus wept, the meter reading in Live dropped from max down to 10%!! I felt like a bloody idiot :oops:

Anyway, just thought id post this just incase any of you guys happen to be crap with computers like me. :lol:
Hehe, you made me happy again. Not that I am on a laptop, but that was a very nice and amuzing anecdote! :D

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