Kinda disappointed about 3 features...

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:24 pm

I came in to my office to DL (or at least see the announcement of MP3 support, sigh...) in V3, and VSTi. I am assuming that it must be VERY hard to impliment those 2 very popular wishes in LIVE. They know we want it. Personally, I can accept the lack of VSTi/Audio Unit support, but MP3 support is a MUST for me to dish out more green on this program. Am I alone here. Its too bad, because Ableton has been hitting home-runs one after another with each release (until now)...

I han only hope that soon we will see MP3 support to save my HD some needed space...

PLEASE

e · Post by e » Tue Sep 02, 2003 5:56 pm

Well, I'm sure you're not alone, but I for one am completely stoked about the changes, and feel the upgrade price well worth it, especially compared to other companie's upgrades.

I would love to see VSTi support, and imagine I will at some point. I imagine .mp3 will come too, though I have no particular need for it, and wouldn't use it.

If the upgrade doesn't work for you, hang on to your dough - they may allow an upgrade from 2.x to 4x down the road.

But I can't wait to check out 3.

e.

[email protected] · Post by **[email protected]** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:43 pm

mp3 would be amazing. i run a lot of my friends tracks through ableton, and it would be great for more improvisation live to have 100 tracks to work from, than chopping, wave'ing, taking up 10 gigs of space per set.

i think itll take some time. altivec YES!

emef · Post by **emef** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:59 pm

i think ab3 makes for a top upgrade, really looking forward to it.
but, yeah... mp3 would have been really nice.

Schmidi · Post by **Schmidi** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:07 am

yeah I hear you about size, mp3's are quite a bit more taxing on your system though so its a trade off.

I'm not upgrading though untill i can add a basic midi loop in the same fashion as a sample. That would rock my world!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm

At least they could give me Recycle file support!!!

90% of all my samples/loops i keep in rx2 format!

guest · Post by **guest** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:16 pm

Mp3=compression, PA systems=compression
MP3 compression+PA compression=out of phase=bad sounding gigs!

cderum · Post by **cderum** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:38 pm

guest wrote:Mp3=compression, PA systems=compression
MP3 compression+PA compression=out of phase=bad sounding gigs!

i wish i knew a way to get this message to the guy that dj'ed at my brother's wedding . . .

[email protected] · Post by **[email protected]** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:51 pm

can you explain this to me.

my friend dj's on traktor, exclusively with mp3's and his gigs sound very good.

a tiny bit less crisp than vinyl, but far more than adequate output. and thats on the standard stereo out on a pc.

so what do you REALLY mean? what did the guy do on the wedding gig, adn why exactly does it sound bad?

ive seen multiple gigs via mp3 and it mixes well, sounds good, and makes heads bounce to a well composed set.

cderum · Post by **cderum** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:15 pm

[email protected] wrote: so what do you REALLY mean? what did the guy do on the wedding gig, adn why exactly does it sound bad?
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oh, i don't mean anything sinister at all, just that this guy at this wedding was playing everything from his laptop (i have no idea what his software setup was) and the sound coming out of the pa was out of phase and warbly. Nothing crisp about it at all--just very digital sounding. I've not noticed this so much from other dj's, but this guy's rig just sounded like crap.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:37 pm

Eh? Doesn't that just mean that he had plugged things in wrong? Or that he was using crap MP3s?

cderum · Post by **cderum** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:04 pm

noisetonepause wrote:Eh? Doesn't that just mean that he had plugged things in wrong? Or that he was using crap MP3s?

crap mp3's is a good possibility, some songs sounded better than others. sometimes though, the sound was a bit like what you hear when you're previewing samples on primesounds or whatever.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:47 pm

guest wrote:Mp3=compression, PA systems=compression
MP3 compression+PA compression=out of phase=bad sounding gigs!

what are you talking about? MP3 compression is completely different than compression on a PA. I don't see how this could cause anything to be out of phase.

I've played hundreds of MP3s out with no real noticeable sacrifice in sound quality. Granted, most were encoded at 256+, but still--your argument makes no sense to me.

laughingtiger · Post by **laughingtiger** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:53 pm

Anonymous wrote:At least they could give me Recycle file support!!!

90% of all my samples/loops i keep in rx2 format!

If you have Reason, you can load your sample on to a Dr. Rex loop player then save the file the loop as an audio file (wav or aif). You can then use those loops in Live.

six_wax · Post by **six_wax** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:26 am

Anonymous wrote: what are you talking about? MP3 compression is completely different than compression on a PA. I don't see how this could cause anything to be out of phase.

I've played hundreds of MP3s out with no real noticeable sacrifice in sound quality. Granted, most were encoded at 256+, but still--your argument makes no sense to me.

eh... if you can't hear the difference, well...