Operator Problem

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sexyboywonder
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Operator Problem

Post by sexyboywonder » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:17 am

Just accessed the Operator(great toy!)

Reallised that the course parameters on each of the oscillators only go to 0.5 and not to 0.
I appologise if this is well know is this a bug or can it be sorted btw I have tried to type in the value of 0 and still goes to 0.5

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Post by amo » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:01 am

Check out the multiplier ! it goes to 0, therefore 0X0.5=0

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Post by sexyboywonder » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:27 pm

So why when I was going through the Operator tutorials that It was specifing that you set the Course to 0 without being in Fixed Multi mode?
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Post by amo » Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:34 pm

sexyboywonder wrote:So why when I was going through the Operator tutorials that It was specifing that you set the Course to 0 without being in Fixed Multi mode?
Because it is an outdated tutorial, from Live 4 times.... Operator got updated in the meantime !
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Post by iain.morland » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:52 pm

I wish they'd update the tutorial. It would only take a moment.

I mentioned precisely what you're describing in a post about a month ago, and others have mentioned it both before and since.

The value you're talking about describes the pitch ratio between the oscillators, not their pitch in absolute terms (if I understand correctly!), so that's why it's impossible for them to be set to zero.

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Post by amo » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:27 pm

iain.morland wrote:I wish they'd update the tutorial. It would only take a moment.

I mentioned precisely what you're describing in a post about a month ago, and others have mentioned it both before and since.

The value you're talking about describes the pitch ratio between the oscillators, not their pitch in absolute terms (if I understand correctly!), so that's why it's impossible for them to be set to zero.
no no, what I'm talking about is actually the multiplier for the very oscillator, so that's the way to set it to 0.
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Post by sexyboywonder » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:52 pm

Yes you can get the value to 0 when Fixed(and Multipler is active)

You can't when not Fixed.
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Post by peeddrroo » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:01 am

but 0Hz is a fixed frequency, isn't it?
what would you expect the operator to do with a non-fixed 0Hz frequency?

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Post by iain.morland » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:20 pm

amo wrote:no no, what I'm talking about is actually the multiplier for the very oscillator, so that's the way to set it to 0.
Yep, that's exactly what I'm referring to too! :wink: You can't set it to zero because the ratio between the oscillators can't be zero.

When fixed, the knob does something a bit different, because it reflects the absolute pitch of the oscillator, not its relative pitch in relation to the others.

(I think!) :roll:

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