Clip Focus?

supster · Post by **supster** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:18 am

noting recently more and more that among the keycommands that are missing, this one might be the biggest ommission:

there is a shortcut to toggle between CLip View and Track View (SHIFT-TAB), but no shortcut to change the focus between Clip Waveform and clip in the sesssion slot or session grid

ie. when playing a set im constantly grabbing for my trackball to alternately zoom or do Clip View operations, then grabbing it again to do clip firing operations on the grid.

am i missing the shortcut, and/or is there are "workaround" i dont know about

or using AutoHotkeys (which is great) ... i use it but im not a guru with it yet.

or do we need to make it a priority to start begging for this in the wishlist forum

its a bad ommision, means constantly grabbing for something with the pointer you shouldnt have to
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amo · Post by **amo** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:11 am

Hi,

Do I get you right ? you want to be able to fire the clip that is in focus in clipview ? Doesn't the return key work ??? Have to give it a try myself.

I myself find quite a lot of focus annoyances... Like selcting a note and zooming... why the hell it doesn't flip the view to show that note in the center of the view... etc etc...

amo

supster · Post by **supster** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:33 am

amo wrote:Hi,

Do I get you right ? you want to be able to fire the clip that is in focus in clipview ? Doesn't the return key work ??? Have to give it a try myself.

I myself find quite a lot of focus annoyances... Like selcting a note and zooming... why the hell it doesn't flip the view to show that note in the center of the view... etc etc...

amo

no .. i mean if you are working in the waveform of a clip, then that has the focus and you can work with it

if you want to then (say) switch to view another clip waveform without firing it, you have to grab for your pointer controller and move it up to the session grid and click

sounds like a small thing, but its not when you are constantly needing to switch back and forth ..

what we need is a hotkey that switches focus between the clipview and the session grid - then you could use your arrow keys to view any clip you wanted to

or ... some games have a 'previous focus' - next focus hotkey. both would be better than either. trying to find out whether theres a way to do this before i move it to the wishlist forum ..

i know what you mean about the note. you can doubleclick on the left side of the midi editor to zoom on your selection vertically, but not horizontally
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amo · Post by **amo** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:38 am

Then alt + up and down arrows are your friends... gives the focus to the clip area or the clip view... Even left right work between clip area (up) and browser....

amo · Post by **amo** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:47 am

amo wrote:Then alt + up and down arrows are your friends... gives the focus to the clip area or the clip view... Even left right work between clip area (up) and browser....

mmmm. just noticed that if a note has the focus, the alt up arrow doesn't work, you first have to hit alt left arrows, then alt up arrow.

supster · Post by **supster** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:32 am

amo wrote:Then alt + up and down arrows are your friends... gives the focus to the clip area or the clip view... Even left right work between clip area (up) and browser....

ah ok - dont know how i missed this one. this gets you from the clip in the sesssion grid down to the waveform, thats better than nothing

but it doesnt really get you back from the waveform/Clip View to the session grid.

ALT-UP highlights the session grid, but you still need to grab for your pointer device and click in the grid to get back to your clip or utilize the arrows.

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amo · Post by **amo** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:34 am

no: the first time, the fader section is highlighted, second up arrow, clip grid, third up arrow, track selection.... quite convenient in fact....

supster · Post by **supster** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:05 pm

amo wrote:no: the first time, the fader section is highlighted, second up arrow, clip grid, third up arrow, track selection.... quite convenient in fact....

nice!

i tried to automate this using AutoHotkeys - so that i would use one key to do ALT-UP/UP, then another to do ALT-DOWN/DOWN as macros.

so you could jump back and forth with single keypresses. but they were going out of sync. must have been coding it wrong

but its almost as easy to do double presses with the up arrow manually

thank you so much, getting my hand off the trackball more and more bit by bit ...
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mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:23 pm

i would like to beable to select the loop brackets with a shortcut!

serotoninsteve · Post by **serotoninsteve** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:13 pm

Cool to know this shortcuts, thanx a lot for the info.
And yes, please give us a shortcut for the loopbraces, or better the way it was in an earlier version (v2;v3 ??) I don´t remember where you didn´t loose the focus on the loopbraces especially when warping. Nobody really knows why this has been changed I think?

Greetings

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:33 am

in the tutorial it says that you can select he loop braces via midi map

but i dont see it.

supster · Post by **supster** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:25 am

mike holiday wrote:i would like to beable to select the loop brackets with a shortcut!

yes, absolutely, another small control feature that ends up being huge omission when doing a set ...

also ..

on second thought the ALT_UP UP and ALT DOWN DOWN is not really an ideal way of doing things

there should be a shortcut to jump directly - your adding extra keys to stop on secondary obejectives

the master volume? why? the tracks but not the clips in the tracks? Why ... this should be a seperate unique shortcut imo

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Ironlion · Post by **Ironlion** » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:12 pm

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