The history of "Amen Brother"

Apocrypha · Post by **Apocrypha** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:19 am

For those of you who don't know where the most sampled break in history came from, here is a good history lesson for you.. Enjoy

http://nkhstudio.com/pages/amen_mp4.html

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:54 am

That was very informative and very provocative. Quite long but I dug it. That sh*t should be on the History channel. That beat still gets the heads a boppin'. Amazing!

computo · Post by **computo** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:28 am

this has been posted here before

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:37 pm

computo wrote:this has been posted here before

There's been alot of other crap posted here recently too. Such as a post claiming that the break was copyrighted by the Amen Bros.

-no such animal! Thanks for setting the record straight Apocrypha.

Apocrypha · Post by **Apocrypha** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:42 pm

Yeah, I don't know why they didn't seem to care too much. Even now it would be difficult because it's almost considered "public domain". But I don't know how Zero G has any right to liscence the break? That's what I don't understand. I am going to buy the original vinyl probably through Ebay.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:36 pm

I love this break.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:45 pm

it's been posted but it's one of the coolest things I've ever seen

is there a way to save it? the last link was protected and this is something I'd personally like to have at hand to show electronica haters what's up.

Greykore · Post by **Greykore** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:11 pm

Yeah. If you have a way of saving the quicktime - maybe using quicktime pro - you can download it. It's also ready to put on an ipod or psp by the looks of things.

Alternatively the direct link to the movie is http://ia300136.us.archive.org/2/items/ ... en_web.mov you may be able to get to it from this.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:26 pm

that worked, thanks! I didn't have as much luck last time.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:30 pm

I wish DJ's worte beats and participated in music forums such as this

there's a lot of local idiots playing records who have no idea what a amen break is - they just know the word amen but have zero clue as to what it actually is

thanks for posting this - I'm going to copy and paste in the record store around the corner in the drum and bass section

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computo · Post by **computo** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:42 pm

public domain? NO.

there is 75 year halflife for a copyright, so it would certainly NOT be difficult to prosecute. In fact, there are SO MANY instances of the illegal use of the Amen, that it would be EASY AS SIN, to pick a couple and prosecute to the fullest extent.

Zero G has absolutely NO right to license those loops. In fact they are NOT licensing them, as they dont have the license. They are as illegal as song based use.

When it comes down to it, they have another 30-40 years to change their minds, but it seems like they are a cool bunch who have moved on to other things. They never made much money on the lp, so I doubt they really know the possibilities.

glu · Post by **glu** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:48 pm

anyone have a clue how much $ it would cost to clear a 2 second break? I would like to get the proper rights to use it commercially.

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:08 pm

glu wrote:anyone have a clue how much $ it would cost to clear a 2 second break? I would like to get the proper rights to use it commercially.

I would assume that that would very much depend on who played it. U2 or your neighbourhood skate-punk band.

Or are you talking the actual Amen break? Then just go ahead and use it. It has been used in sooo many commerical project already. If they would sue, you probably wouldn't be the first target.

Apocrypha · Post by **Apocrypha** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:08 pm

computo wrote:public domain?

Zero G has absolutely NO right to license those loops. In fact they are NOT licensing them, as they dont have the license. They are as illegal as song based use.

Maybe license wasn't the right word. But regardless, how is Zero G able to include that break in their sample cd to sell?

krank · Post by **krank** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:32 pm

glu wrote:I would like to get the proper rights to use it commercially.

Why not give it a rest?