Four Tet - What do you think?

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Post by highdropod » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:35 pm

audiomulch is a dope program. totally recommend it to anyone.

i saw four tet with jamie lidell opening late last year. sorry to say, but i didn't really give kieran a fair chance and walked out after 12 minutes of his wankery. i couldn't get into it after jamie killed everyone in the audience with one of the best performances i've seen in years. aside from that, i hear four tet albums are quite good, but i've never heard any of them.

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Re: Four Tet - What do you think?

Post by gomi » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:54 pm

Nightrider wrote: What software does he use?
He uses Audiomulch.

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Post by noisetonepause » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:04 pm

and cakewalk something or other, according to the SOS interview from a few years ago.
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by eddit » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:11 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:
eddit wrote:So sick of electronic music being treated like it is purely functional...

Interesting. Can you elaborate on this?
"He's making music that goes *bleep*, it must be dance music. Let's turn it up so loud that everyone dances."

What a waste of all his drum slicing/technology/delicate eqs/sense of melody

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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:28 pm

Since I'm on a Mac and can't try out Audiomulch, can anyone tell me what I can do on Audiomulch that I can't do on Ableton Live?

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Post by Machinate » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:30 pm

honestly, many music technicians don't have a single clue how to operate that master fader - there's a sense of: "well, we just bought this huge-ass expensive system, we need to get our moneys worth out of it"...

about 6 out of 10 concerts I've been to would have been so much more enjoyable if the sound pressure was about half of what it was..
about 2 out of 10 concerts would have benefitted from a louder presentation, probably due to sub-par system or the tech being MIA, aka at the bar with a beer.
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Post by eddit » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:38 am

Machinate wrote:honestly, many music technicians don't have a single clue how to operate that master fader - there's a sense of: "well, we just bought this huge-ass expensive system, we need to get our moneys worth out of it"...
For anyone interested, check out the Red Bull Music Academy podcasts at http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/PODCASTS.132.0.html

many interesting topics. Danny Krivit mentions the origins of the loft nightclub. The original DJ (name escapes me :oops: ) was such an audiophile that he got rid of the nasty ass mixer they had back then, and just went back to straight turntables and preamps. Truly making the most of their PA :)

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Post by Martyn » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:51 am

This interview is pretty old now, but I think he still uses a similar setup.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jul03/a ... ourtet.asp

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Post by clipperer » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:16 am

from sos interview:
Reason just makes trance music, and you're not really allowed to piss around with it too much and everything's got this horrible reverbed sound, and I kind of hate it
well i think if guy said that then he doesnt know reason very well maybe..
annyway one more time it means that different progs are for different frogs

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Post by nolus » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:46 am

My Angel Rocks Back and Forth is one of my favourite tracks of all time.

But his videos are well scary.
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Post by sunrarara » Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:36 pm

I had the pleasure of recording with Mr Hebden for the Steve Reid album. I wont go into too much detail out of respect but its a simple set up all right:
2x SP303 samplers
audiomulch
laptop
sampleing mixer with effects

a very very lovely guy too...new steve reid colaborations out in january and are amazing

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Post by noisetonepause » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:29 pm

I also had the pleasure of talking to him after the gig, he did indeed some like a very friendly bloke.
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by mistermoya » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:44 pm

Yup Kieran does use audiomulch and his less is more approach has been key to his music over the years.

I know Kieran personally and switching to Ableton has come up in one of our conversations, as much as he's open to switching, he seems very happy using audiomulch. :)
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Post by WaveRider » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:51 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote: what I can do on Audiomulch that I can't do on Ableton Live?

-there is a patching view where you can make all your connections and you can do everything fast -in Live you end up with a ton a tracks trying to do the same, the visual clutter works against you -AM works better for experimenting with sound

-all the included intruments and fx are great in AM, they are simple, and have very special functions and sound incredible -in Live most instruments and fx are really plain and do not sound as good

-there is a really powerfull real-time looping in AM, better implemented than live

-AM is rock solid and never almost never crashes, and has very little CPU overhead.

and last, but not least, all vst work fine in audiomulch -no damn parameters oscillation problems or not being able to access all paremeters like live does -this is my main gripe with Live and ableton IS NOT LISTENING....


...and AM is about 10 times cheaper than Live!


obviously there is stuff you can do in Live that you cannot do in AM, but I think some fx in AM are really cutting edge sounds....

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Post by gomi » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:02 pm

WaveRider wrote: obviously there is stuff you can do in Live that you cannot do in AM, but I think some fx in AM are really cutting edge sounds....
the author of audiomulch gave a talk at the place i work. he brought a nintendo
power glove which he proceeded to use as a midi controller.. it was
so awesome.

one demo he set up the wet dry of a reverb to how near or far his hand was.
that was really cool... while using each finger to control a parameter
of the granualation engine...

whoah.

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