Live + Turntables + Scratching

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Patch
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Live + Turntables + Scratching

Post by Patch » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:50 am

Anybody doing this successfully? Not for playing out, but for recording the whole thing into Live. I'm struggling with the scratching due to the input latency. I used to be able to scratch and record into cooledit with no latency - ie - the sound would go directly through my soundcard and get recorded, but would not be delayed at all due to latency. I can't for the life of me work out how I did this in cooledit. (I was on a desktop then which had 2 soundcards, both internal, so I was recording into one and playing out through the other...)

I'm on a laptop - so I've only got 1 in and 1 out.

The question I am asking is: how do I make an audio signal pass through the machine without any latency? I've definitely done it before... I used to be able to scratch and just hit record in cooledit. The signal path went:

Turntable
Mixer
sound card 1 in
sound card 2 out
amp
speaker

Cooledit would not play the sound until it had been recorded, stopped and played back - so no latency problems...

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Post by DISUYE » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:01 pm

Have you got a second pair, or booth output on your mixer? Might want to try try sending one signal to your amp, and a duplicate signal to the computer.

Dan

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Post by Patch » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:09 pm

That is what I currently do. I'd like to change it to having the master out from the mixer going into the laptop, directly through (with no latency) then out to my amp. At the moment, nothing I scratch live can be heard without having latency introduced. This is a real problem when scratching...

I think I get where you're coming from, though. Do you mean to set the delay compensation to get rid of the latency, and set live's input monitor to "off"? This would get rid of the latency because I would not hear the delayed scratch - but on playback the scratching would be on-time...

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Post by subterFUSE » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:40 pm

I think he is suggesting that you record to the laptop from the master output, but you listen through the booth output.

This way, you hear the scratching with no latency... since it plays directly from the mixer to the amp, through the booth output... but you also get it recorded to the laptop.
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