Live 5.0.3 Still Causing CPU Spikes!!!

supster · Post by **supster** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:14 am

What a dastardly plan ....

oh my god ...

John Sweet · Post by **John Sweet** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:56 am

The glitch I'm really ticked about is the one I get when I hit the tap tempo button on my MIDI controller.
I set my buffer by playing back a single track with a ton of reverbs set to "first class" to get up to 80+%, then compare this to the (inferior) test tone method, and everything seems good as long as I let Live run.
But if I touch the tempo button, I have to add 100+ samples to my buffer to keep thru playback on my turntables from glitching.
And I also get the clip launching/first-CC-change-in-a-while glitches, too.

amo · Post by **amo** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:46 am

henry ford wrote:heh, they flew you out? What a dastardly plan. Ply the most favourable forum members with attention and recognition, and they will keep the forum in check in times of inevitable dissent. Meanwhile robert is swimming in lagoons infinitely deep with vintage brandy and the tears of a thousand children, the pope and jean paul gaultier by his side with a hearty russian whore reading excerpts from the countless rave-reviews, everyone choking on its delicious irony; the programming staff high on poppers maniacly trashing their keyboards and hitting compile, spitting and shouting in an orgiastic scene of obscene debauchery, fit for the anti-christ's mantelpiece.

Now that's funny !

leandro · Post by **leandro** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:39 am

i found a solution for the audio dropouts that i suffer whenever i lunch a new clip (or one that i hadnt lounched for a while), move a send, turn on an effect, move the freq of a filter, etc, etc (all of this when i do that for the first time, or after some time after doing it). The problem is, that u need 2 Macs to fix this (at least, dont know how to do this with a pc)

ok, lemme explain:
my partner also uses ableton live, and he also has the same problem (like me, both on pc and mac systems, and doesnt matter the soundcard we use neither.. it happens anyway). When we get together to play for the first time, we had lots of troubles to midi sync 2 computers, and finally we''ve been able to sync them (via midi)... BUT when the audio dropouts were happening to us (while not being synced) we started to suffer another problem (while being synced)... the audio was slowed down!... (hope my english is clear enough)... i mean, the audiodropouts (little silences) were now translated to a continous audio, but it just got slowed down (like if u put a finger over a 12" when u r playing it)... ok, this sounded logical to us (considering the main problem), does it sound logical to u also ?
but later, another problem appeared... we lost sync ! i mean.. both computers were in syncro, but not beatmucatching each other (hope im clear again).. again, we thought this was due to the original problem.
so, we started looking for another way to midi sync, and finally the one that worked better was getting in syncro by network (using the "audio midi setup" from OsX).. and u know what ? after some times playing that way, we found out that the problems were gone !! (again, if i use my computer alone, the problem is still there)

maybe making live to sync to some other soft inside the same computer will do the trick ? (i mean... if there is any way to do that)

if u have the chance to try this, plz do and post your results later.. (hope this works to u, and that this can help ableton to fix this without needing a second computer)

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:50 am

Hi,guys! I'm not posting anything new here,rather outta frustration.I was watchin' this forum for some time and I'm one of those Ableton Live 5.02 -causalities.
As much as I saluted Ableton's revolutionary attitude etc.,I can't say anything,but that it's looks/sounds like Total Catastrophe.
I don't even bother to mention anything on the bug side,as it looks I got them all,-sound-wise,GUI-wise,CPU-wise ...etc. you name it.
I'm absolutely with Henry_Ford and Justin on that,-it's a totally non-workin' piece of shit /hype,-there's no point in fixin' these shit.It must be downgraded to make it work,somehow.
It's a very sad news and absolutely unappropriate strategy for the Ableton,-to sell this kind of garbage to the customers.It's a shame.
I must add that I've never encountered the bull-shittin' like this before.
Oh,if it helps,-Toshiba Sattelite,Pentium 4,Ram,-2 GB,M-Audio FW Audiophile.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:04 am

leandro wrote:i found a solution for the audio dropouts that i suffer whenever i lunch a new clip (or one that i hadnt lounched for a while), move a send, turn on an effect, move the freq of a filter, etc, etc (all of this when i do that for the first time, or after some time after doing it). The problem is, that u need 2 Macs to fix this (at least, dont know how to do this with a pc)

ok, lemme explain:
my partner also uses ableton live, and he also has the same problem (like me, both on pc and mac systems, and doesnt matter the soundcard we use neither.. it happens anyway). When we get together to play for the first time, we had lots of troubles to midi sync 2 computers, and finally we''ve been able to sync them (via midi)... BUT when the audio dropouts were happening to us (while not being synced) we started to suffer another problem (while being synced)... the audio was slowed down!... (hope my english is clear enough)... i mean, the audiodropouts (little silences) were now translated to a continous audio, but it just got slowed down (like if u put a finger over a 12" when u r playing it)... ok, this sounded logical to us (considering the main problem), does it sound logical to u also ?
but later, another problem appeared... we lost sync ! i mean.. both computers were in syncro, but not beatmucatching each other (hope im clear again).. again, we thought this was due to the original problem.
so, we started looking for another way to midi sync, and finally the one that worked better was getting in syncro by network (using the "audio midi setup" from OsX).. and u know what ? after some times playing that way, we found out that the problems were gone !! (again, if i use my computer alone, the problem is still there)

maybe making live to sync to some other soft inside the same computer will do the trick ? (i mean... if there is any way to do that)

if u have the chance to try this, plz do and post your results later.. (hope this works to u, and that this can help ableton to fix this without needing a second computer)

this sounds like a sample-rate problem of some kind - like when a program thinks the audio is 44.1khz, and it's really 48 it'll be pitched about. I've had similar problems in the past where some plugins didn't tolerate 48khz at all.

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:40 pm

Juri wrote:Hi,guys! I'm not posting anything new here,rather outta frustration.I was watchin' this forum for some time and I'm one of those Ableton Live 5.02 -causalities.
As much as I saluted Ableton's revolutionary attitude etc.,I can't say anything,but that it's looks/sounds like Total Catastrophe.
I don't even bother to mention anything on the bug side,as it looks I got them all,-sound-wise,GUI-wise,CPU-wise ...etc. you name it.
I'm absolutely with Henry_Ford and Justin on that,-it's a totally non-workin' piece of shit /hype,-there's no point in fixin' these shit.It must be downgraded to make it work,somehow.
It's a very sad news and absolutely unappropriate strategy for the Ableton,-to sell this kind of garbage to the customers.It's a shame.
I must add that I've never encountered the bull-shittin' like this before.
Oh,if it helps,-Toshiba Sattelite,Pentium 4,Ram,-2 GB,M-Audio FW Audiophile.

Yes mate, i am with you.Most of the time it is not work properly,what sould i say,
CPU,dropouts,gliches.They havejavascript:emoticon(':evil:') to fix all these problems,but i dont know why the people stil buy this software.

Cheers.

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:01 pm

Thanx alot,man! I really appreciate your moral support and understandin'.
Do they ever can repair the "glitches" in their credibility? Because of this bull-shit I almost freezed all of my musical projects.

insidium · Post by **insidium** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:03 am

So I don't know if this is anything new or not - but it just seemed rather strange to me.

I have the glitches etc. - Live is still useable it just doesnt work as well as i would expect on my system (1ghz powerbook G4 - 768MB RAM).

The other day, my external HD that holds all of my audio samples died and got disconnected, but after this the set I was working on still worked perfectly. This seemed pretty strange considering all the media was offline.
I checked to see if I had RAM mode enabled on the clips or something but I didn't. Even the samples in Kontakt were playing back without the drive connected. Does this mean that stuff is getting loaded into RAM when it shouldn't be? And therefore using all the RAM space which is causing the overloads and stuttering? Or is this just normal and I've missed the point?

abletone · Post by **abletone** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:44 pm

I had the same spike problems and slow copying of blocks in one set for a while. I had 63 tracks, however, not going all at once. So I thought, oh, too many tracks and plugs.

Then I installed the 2nd to last update of Live and my plug ins weren't installed. But it asked me to load set anyway. I said, "OK."

At that point it worked like a charm.

Since then, I have only used plugins from Live and other ones that are clearly recognized by their commerciality.

The plugs I was using I downloaded from different free plug in sites. I think that is what caused my problem. The copying is slower now that I have been changing things, but no more spikes or waiting 30 seconds for the song to roll..

Maybe this helps someone..

greets

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:02 am

abletone wrote:I had the same spike problems and slow copying of blocks

The plugs I was using I downloaded from different free plug in sites. I think that is what caused my problem. The copying is slower now that I have been changing things, but no more spikes or waiting 30 seconds for the song to roll..

Maybe this helps someone..

greets

so,
no more spikes? are you using 5.0.3?
what were some of the plugs?
thanx,
dpel

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:01 pm

curious,
anybody experiencing CPU spikes with the current Beta?

best,
dpel

Ants · Post by **Ants** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:05 pm

Ok So I here about a great product try a demo on my pc. Works fine. Buy it. Install it play the demo song and BLAM mad stuttering cpu SPIKES Like Im running some piece of shit machine and I hasten to turn this disaster off. Whats goin on surely it must be user error. You dont just buy an internationally acclaimed product ..and it simply wont work..right? Well it looks like I am wrong it can happen ..its happening to me and possibly thousands of other dumbfounded ,sorry hopefuls good going Ableton what a cock up! I dont pretend to understand the complexity and even brilliance of your skils. But releasing a product that just doesnt work when opened and installed is pure product suicide. Well Done!
On reading these threads to discover my user error.
I have learned that your (seemingly) not being open about bugs or known problems. I havent yet seen anything formal from your company about these issues. Am I to assume from this that you do not acknowledge any of this issues? Or you know but just arent willing to post anything usefull. From a business and personal point of view I see this as arrogant and unprofessional. So It seems I have duped by snakeoilsman spouting a A PRODUCT THAT SIMPLY DOESNT DO ANYTHING BUT SPIKE MY CPU.
To find this out from people on this site reminds me of T.v.programs catching rogue cowboys conning the elderly out of there hard earned pensions....
Lowly ambitions for a highly skilled group such as ABLETON I would of thought. But the proof is in the pudding. Please prove me wrong!! As I am wiliing to be, to have the pleasure of using a product I would like to believe in.

If any one is willing to help me solve my problem I would appreciate the help. Thankyou and good luck to anyone in the same spot as me.

I am running a new Imactel with 2 gig of ram with the 5.01 bought disc upgraded to 5.03 (with the same problems on both).

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:09 pm

Ants wrote:Ok So I here about a great product try a demo on my pc. Works fine. Buy it. Install it play the demo song and BLAM mad stuttering cpu SPIKES Like Im running some piece of shit machine and I hasten to turn this disaster off. Whats goin on surely it must be user error. You dont just buy an internationally acclaimed product ..and it simply wont work..right? Well it looks like I am wrong it can happen ..its happening to me and possibly thousands of other dumbfounded ,sorry hopefuls good going Ableton what a cock up! I dont pretend to understand the complexity and even brilliance of your skils. But releasing a product that just doesnt work when opened and installed is pure product suicide. Well Done!
On reading these threads to discover my user error.
I have learned that your (seemingly) not being open about bugs or known problems. I havent yet seen anything formal from your company about these issues. Am I to assume from this that you do not acknowledge any of this issues? Or you know but just arent willing to post anything usefull. From a business and personal point of view I see this as arrogant and unprofessional. So It seems I have duped by snakeoilsman spouting a A PRODUCT THAT SIMPLY DOESNT DO ANYTHING BUT SPIKE MY CPU.
To find this out from people on this site reminds me of T.v.programs catching rogue cowboys conning the elderly out of there hard earned pensions....
Lowly ambitions for a highly skilled group such as ABLETON I would of thought. But the proof is in the pudding. Please prove me wrong!! As I am wiliing to be, to have the pleasure of using a product I would like to believe in.

If any one is willing to help me solve my problem I would appreciate the help. Thankyou and good luck to anyone in the same spot as me.

I am running a new Imactel with 2 gig of ram with the 5.01 bought disc upgraded to 5.03 (with the same problems on both).

Before you blast Ableton for being incompetent....
I would download the 5.2 beta which supports intel macs.
Because intel macs just started exsisting

The version of Live you're running is for the PPC processors......

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35898

http://www.ableton.com/index?main=news- ... ac_support

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:40 pm

yes, pure comedy, to read that rant and then "i'm running 5.03 on a macintel"

Live 5.0.3 Still Causing CPU Spikes!!!

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