Just moved from FLStudio to Live5!!!

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Just moved from FLStudio to Live5!!!

Post by dab » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:28 pm

I just bought Live5 and gave it a good run in. I'm glad I did. What a great program. Will be using FL to make loops to run in Live. Thank you Ableton!!!
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Post by tomperson » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:56 pm

Welcome then. I know what you're talking, i used FL years ago...Never regretted leaving it behind! I mean, FL is just nice to make loops/grooves, but it's automation sucks, not to mention that playing live with it is just impossible.
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Post by faze » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:08 pm

Welcome to Live 5. You won't regret it!

I used to use FL Studio 4 in the past, along with another host or two since. Since trying and buying Live 5, I haven't looked back. Live 5 is THE host for me.
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Post by pulsoc » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:44 pm

tomperson wrote:Welcome then. I know what you're talking, i used FL years ago...Never regretted leaving it behind! I mean, FL is just nice to make loops/grooves, but it's automation sucks, not to mention that playing live with it is just impossible.
I think FL's automation is worlds beyond Live. I have used it as a rewire client mostly for those capabilities - peak controller, formula, and the separate automation windows.
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Post by tomperson » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:58 pm

Well, it may have changed in newer version, but back in FL4 it was horrible, you had to chase around where were the automation parameters, make clips just for automation...horrible (again).
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Post by pulsoc » Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:10 pm

No, since v. 3 you could do custom shapes/phasing/etc. (like in the autopan effect but waaaaay more customisable) and use internal controls. And programing the automation as a "clip" made it another sort of modular component - one which requires the use of "dummy clips" in Live. Now I am really enjoying Live for it's strengths, but compared to FL automation is not one of them.
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Post by jasonjbundy » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:37 pm

Live 5 currently sucks (you will get to know the bugs intimately). FL 6 was a nice upgrade, but for live use, it is just awful.
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Post by hambone1 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:47 pm

jasonjbundy wrote:Live 5 currently sucks (you will get to know the bugs intimately).
Depends on what you're using it for. Live 5 works perfectly for me, although I would like to see some more speed on the interface side.
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FL Studio automation

Post by RobertX » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:41 am

Yeah, FLs formula and peak controllers are beyond the pale of cool. I've been yammering on about this in the Wish List forum for quite some time now. I really wish Live had these capabilities, along with an "ignore conflict" feature so you can map several controllable items to a single knob or button.
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Post by atmofunk » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:42 am

hambone1 wrote:Depends on what you're using it for. Live 5 works perfectly for me, although I would like to see some more speed on the interface side.
agreed -- Live is great for me but I use it for studio/arrangement work and hardly ever go into session

interface needs SPEEEEEEEEEEEEED

For some reason i don't think new users are gonna notice "bugs" so much as older users.. but that's just my opinion :)
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Post by eyeknow » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:49 am

I love live.........all software has problems.........
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Post by tomperson » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:01 pm

pulsoc wrote:No, since v. 3 you could do custom shapes/phasing/etc. (like in the autopan effect but waaaaay more customisable) and use internal controls. And programing the automation as a "clip" made it another sort of modular component - one which requires the use of "dummy clips" in Live. Now I am really enjoying Live for it's strengths, but compared to FL automation is not one of them.
Interesting, maybe I should have investigated more at the time. As for making a "clip" of automation (for me at least) that sucked, i had to go chasing for those clips all around.

Anyway, I'm on Live now, and its sweet. :D
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Post by quandry » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:27 pm

to me, FL and Live are the perfect combo. I've been gigging with FL Studio 4 (and now 5) rewired into Live 3 for years. The two applications compliment each other so well, it is great. And I must say, as stable as Live is (3.0.2 is perfect for all intents and purposes), FL is just as stable if not moreso. Live I us Live for making audio loops, and rewire FL in to make live beats in FL step sequencer. I rewire each type of drum sound out of FL on seperate rewire channels so that they come in on seperate tracks in Live, and can be seperately mixed and effected. Anyhow, the are both great programs, great at very different things (live with audio, FL with midi)--the two playing together are awesome. cheers.
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Re: Just moved from FLStudio to Live5!!!

Post by gaspode » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:35 pm

dab wrote:I just bought Live5 and gave it a good run in. I'm glad I did. What a great program. Will be using FL to make loops to run in Live. Thank you Ableton!!!
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Congrats... though you'll probably find uses for good old Fruity from time to time, so I wouldn't just blow it away and forget about it.

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Post by tomperson » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:06 pm

quandry wrote:to me, FL and Live are the perfect combo. I've been gigging with FL Studio 4 (and now 5) rewired into Live 3 for years. The two applications compliment each other so well, it is great. And I must say, as stable as Live is (3.0.2 is perfect for all intents and purposes), FL is just as stable if not moreso. Live I us Live for making audio loops, and rewire FL in to make live beats in FL step sequencer. I rewire each type of drum sound out of FL on seperate rewire channels so that they come in on seperate tracks in Live, and can be seperately mixed and effected. Anyhow, the are both great programs, great at very different things (live with audio, FL with midi)--the two playing together are awesome. cheers.
The combo is excellent. I love fruity's step sequencer for programming drum loops. I've had problems with it rewired though. I wonder If i'm the only one with those problems...
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