F*** Off Live 6

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:02 pm

AdamJay wrote:

Will Ableton quit developing and bug-fixing Live 5? No.

Lets see, i hope thats true, but if live 4 is anything to go by i dont think so.

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:38 pm

Cryptic UK wrote:
AdamJay wrote:

Will Ableton quit developing and bug-fixing Live 5? No.
Lets see, i hope thats true, but if live 4 is anything to go by i dont think so.

I thought you were alright with live 4

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:43 pm

forge wrote:

I thought you were alright with live 4

?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:49 pm

FWIW, Cryptic
i used to have the same PB as you, and as soon as i upgrded the ram (i think i went up to 1.25GB) most of my problems disappeared. especially audio drop outs.

512MB of ram is great for MS Office and The Sims 2, but not for serious audio work.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:32 pm

AdamJay wrote:FWIW, Cryptic
i used to have the same PB as you, and as soon as i upgrded the ram (i think i went up to 1.25GB) most of my problems disappeared. especially audio drop outs.

512MB of ram is great for MS Office and The Sims 2, but not for serious audio work.

Ok thats performance and my computer works fine on cubase sx by the way.

that wont get rid of bugs inside live, im serious

hey what does FWIW mean?

peace

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:10 pm

FWIW means ''for what its worth''.

and perhaps the realtime processing that is the bulk of what is going on in Live is why it runs better with more ram than an application such as Cubase SX which runs better with less.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:04 pm

Cryptic UK wrote:
AdamJay wrote:

Will Ableton quit developing and bug-fixing Live 5? No.
Lets see, i hope thats true, but if live 4 is anything to go by i dont think so.

My point in the first place.

Adamjay wrote:FWIW, Cryptic
i used to have the same PB as you, and as soon as i upgrded the ram (i think i went up to 1.25GB) most of my problems disappeared. especially audio drop outs.

you picking at straws.

do you work for ableton?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:12 pm

i am not on the ableton payroll, i can assure you.

but i was VERY frustrated when i bought my brand new G4 1.5ghz 12" Powerbook about 1 year ago. so i think i can relate to your frustration. If you search some of my threads in the bugs & problems section you will see my posts of discontent.

as soon as i upgraded the RAM, to 1.25GB all the drop outs stopped and i was ultimately happy with Live 4 and Live 5.

just trying to help...

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:26 pm

no probs mate,

but never said anything about drop outs, its just all the bugs in general i have a problem with, i suppose it depends on how you are using it and whether or not you think things are bugs or not, or even if you notice them.

live 4 still has bugs in it that is my point.

remeber im not talking specifically about drop outs and performance

peace.

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:37 pm

Cryptic UK wrote: live 4 still has bugs in it that is my point.

i see, and i want you to know that the point i was making was in the time Live 4.1 went to Live 5, there were 4 bug fix updates and more bugs were fixed and improvements made than you could count on 10 hands.
and this was the same amount of time (around 6 or 7 months) that we will see between the so-called "announcement" of Live 6 @ NAMM and its actual release.

i mean 5.2 isn't even out yet and you have no idea how many bugs will or won't be fixed in that update. So why the knee-jerk reaction to tell v.6 to f*** off ?

This isn't about patience, though a little of that certainly wouldn't hurt. Its about looking at the history and knowing that updates and fixes are constantly being made.

you can't name me an application that was bug-ridden at the time of an announcement of a next major relase. SX2 to SX3.
Logic 6.4 to Logic 7, etc. etc.
There is not a DAW in the world that you can buy without bugs, and all of them will ask you to pay for an upgrade that gives you new features before all the bugs are ironed out.

So, i think its only fair that you change the title of this thread to:
fuck off DAWs and the entire software industry that gives us the new features we ask for and pay for, but always contains bugs in some way or another

that'd be fair.

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:07 pm

AdamJay wrote:

So, i think its only fair that you change the title of this thread to:
fuck off DAWs and the entire software industry that gives us the new features we ask for and pay for, but always contains bugs in some way or another

that'd be fair.

errr no.

Brick walls disguised as people what ever next?

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:02 pm

Nod wrote:I hasten to add this isn't just on one system - as I've seen it on quite a few machines where it's actually been my recommendation to the user to buy Live for it's amazing creative possibilities.

yeah, i learned this the hard way. the extremely hard way. bought a g5 quad core with 8 gigs of ram, thinking it was my laptop's fault that live slowed down. apparently it was live's fault that live slowed down. so now i have to use protools if i want to do anything processor intensive. what a waste. granted, i am doing a LOT (vst plugins, midi playback to various external keyboards, rewiring reason and melodyne, etc), but still. the main reason i bought this computer was so that this wouldn't happen.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:30 pm

snowtires wrote:\
yeah, i learned this the hard way. the extremely hard way. bought a g5 quad core with 8 gigs of ram, thinking it was my laptop's fault that live slowed down. apparently it was live's fault that live slowed down.

In June when 6 comes out you're guaranteed to get at least double performance though... hopefully more, depends on how future proof Ableton are making their multiple processor performance.

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:08 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
snowtires wrote:\
yeah, i learned this the hard way. the extremely hard way. bought a g5 quad core with 8 gigs of ram, thinking it was my laptop's fault that live slowed down. apparently it was live's fault that live slowed down.
In June when 6 comes out you're guaranteed to get at least double performance though... hopefully more, depends on how future proof Ableton are making their multiple processor performance.

yeah, after i shell out another $200 for the upgrade

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:51 pm

snowtires wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:
snowtires wrote:\
yeah, i learned this the hard way. the extremely hard way. bought a g5 quad core with 8 gigs of ram, thinking it was my laptop's fault that live slowed down. apparently it was live's fault that live slowed down.
In June when 6 comes out you're guaranteed to get at least double performance though... hopefully more, depends on how future proof Ableton are making their multiple processor performance.
yeah, after i shell out another $200 for the upgrade

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