How come most laptop performing musicians use macs??

[Machinesworking]

hi wilxon, no you are maybee right, what i mean is that it might be difficult to say, one goes to an event, PCs all over the place and the next one to an event Macs all over the place, so i guess it's really difficult to say.

like the debate about studio use as well and used apps, i discovered for example massive differences between the states and europe, and even within certain european countrys are differences of what is *majorly around and most used* PT for example is weaker used in europe then in the states, and DP is hardly around in europe... and so on, and so on...

Live at least has a 50/50 split in sales, mac and PC. I think that's pretty much the state of music computers at this point and has been for a while.
Pro Tools is absolutely dominant in the studios here in the states. At least in Washington, every single studio. I've heard Europe is much more diverse that way.

[SubFunk]

mashinesworking wrote:

Pro Tools is absolutely dominant in the studios here in the states. At least in Washington, every single studio. I've heard Europe is much more diverse that way.

yupp, that's what i'd said.

Live at least has a 50/50 split in sales, mac and PC. I think that's pretty much the state of music computers at this point and has been for a while.

that might be true as well, but then how many ableton users actually perform live on a regular basis in real clubs / events...

just to come back to the original post.

[MrYellow]

ummm.. it was a good post but i recall about 100 other mac users in here
saying the same shit. i guess he did it in a nice way

Digi, you may be vocal and may have a kinda balanced view on the subject
(in a strange way), but please don't include yourself as "someone who
actually knows what they are talking about".

Forgie, MS has Windows Scripting Host (WSH) which uses VBScript,
Javascript, Perl, C# or whatever language you set it up for, even AppleScript
I believe..... Windows coding is very component oriented, u build bits of
business logic in C++, VB, Java or whatever and glue them together with
ASP/VBScript/Javascript/Perl or whatever..... By design it's very nice, but in
practice I don't like it...... Much prefer coding in UNIX, Perls my fav for
offline data processing (great with strings), PHP is good for dynamic real-
time stuff, Java just plain sucks no matter where it is...... Don't know how
MS can get the architecture of all their code so neatly designed and so well
thought out, while still being slow and shitty.

-Ben

[12micsn1]

ive used pcs for a long time, and my main desktop and everything ive ever done since I was about 6 has been on a PC.. except a real early mac, but that doesnt count cause it was early 90s..

anyways, why should I get a powerbook or another mac laptop for live gigs instead of a pc laptop? Is it just personal preference, like the desktop thing in essence, or is it more stable? I know thats probably subjective, but i'd like some unbiased opinions on the matter.

thanks

Apple users are part of a cult an we seem to get more notice by that nice looking Apple icon on our products. An its cool and fashionable to use a wonderful product with so much ease of use that give Apple its users base give so many wonderful reviews. Apple people are some of the most satisfied bunch of people on this planet because of this experience.

[Machinesworking]

that might be true as well, but then how many ableton users actually perform live on a regular basis in real clubs / events...

just to come back to the original post.

I think it's a matter of touring like I said before, Apple hardware is relatively homogenous compared to PC's. People who do this for a living will use a powerbook on stage with a mac and PC tower at home. Some people use PC laptops as well, it's just a matter of thinking about crashes etc. Say you're in Paris and your powerbook gets run over by a truck, you just buy a new one, and hopefully have had the foresight to pack an external HD with a disk image of your HD.
You can do this with PC's as well, but it's more likely that you will have to buy a newer laptop that has the possibility of some sort of problem. Not really that likely, but more so than with a powerbook.

[Mike Goodwin]

that might be true as well, but then how many ableton users actually perform live on a regular basis in real clubs / events...

just to come back to the original post.

I think it's a matter of touring like I said before, Apple hardware is relatively homogenous compared to PC's. People who do this for a living will use a powerbook on stage with a mac and PC tower at home. Some people use PC laptops as well, it's just a matter of thinking about crashes etc. Say you're in Paris and your powerbook gets run over by a truck, you just buy a new one, and hopefully have had the foresight to pack an external HD with a disk image of your HD.
You can do this with PC's as well, but it's more likely that you will have to buy a newer laptop that has the possibility of some sort of problem. Not really that likely, but more so than with a powerbook.

That is the most reasonable and worthwile point I have heard in the mac vs. pc debate in a LONG LONG time. It is true if I where touring all over the place I would switch over to a mac powerbook for this very reason. But untill then I see no real reason. My mac tends to piss me off just as much as my PC these days unfortinuatly. I figure my next laptop will be a mac though. I will wait as long as I can though as the prices are just way out there at the moment.

[Digi V]

goodwin, unless you're going for a macbook (ibook) i dont see the prices for macbook pros going anywhere.

[ratafia50]

I had a Titanium and a G4 desktop. AdamJay Live 5 test gave more than 150% Cpu load. I had latency, cracks, even with hammerfall multiface, a lot of bugs (even with iTunes, Pro Tools, Safari, FireFox, Mail...) and worse, sometime, the powerbook doesn't want to wake up.
I change for a second hand IBM T42 that scores 30 to 34%. I don't encouner any bug till now and everything seems perfect, but I don't install unneeded softs and I don't use internet. Latency is 2ms with Asio4all and hdsp asio and there are no crack.
Will Windows become unstable if I don't install a lot of softwares and I use it as a DAW?
Will I be able to do interesting music, since my idols don't use Pc?
Will the audience laugh at me?

[SubFunk]

ratafia50 wrote:

Will I be able to do interesting music, since my idols don't use Pc?

of course you can, this is totally the point missed, mac or PC has nothing to do with your talent nor creativity, and the actual music you make.
it;s about the performance and for me ALL about the reliability of my tools,
if you need it for work, it just has to perform for you under all circumstances, day in day out. nothing else, it's like some people think mastering will do their track being better, i mean in terms of creativity / song structure, point completely missed.

[Mike Goodwin]

goodwin, unless you're going for a macbook (ibook) i dont see the prices for macbook pros going anywhere.

Yes you very well could be right there.

[mikemc]

ratafia50 wrote:

Will I be able to do interesting music, since my idols don't use Pc?

of course you can, this is totally the point missed, mac or PC has nothing to do with your talent nor creativity, and the actual music you make.
it;s about the performance and for me ALL about the reliability of my tools...

I'd say that is the point. Also, if it's a matter of certain brands having more of some particular 'cachet', the bigger Live stickers are perfect for putting in the middle of the lid and covering up whatever logo