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Post by faderfox » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:07 pm

I expect some inquiries from u.s. reseller in the next months so I hope to solve the shipping cost issue.
48 euro are necessary to have enough insurance (about 500 euro). UPS / FEDEX are much more expensive

another idea: share the shipping costs by order in a bulk

I have increased the price for micromodul about 40 euro
to keep the high quality of a really 'german' hand made specialized device.

pay attention that faderfox is a one-man-company and I manufacture small lots
of course this fact reflects on the prices

I work without any restrictions by other companies so I will do it in the future

please don't compare micromodul to any mass production stuff
I know you can buy a lot of faders and keys for a few dollars today
micromodul is a unique optimized tool which is expandable and ultra compact
a special tool for special musicians

everyone should find his favourite instrument to make a great individual sound.
forget the cost/benefit ratios and start playing.....

I love my little beasties like a lot of other musicians do it.
try to get one in your hands and you will love it too....believe me

btw. you don't need all these accessories
micromodul works without mains adaptor and case

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Post by mrweasel » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:21 pm

Is it possible to adapt the double output cable to a third party power adapter.
I have a few cheap multivoltage adapters that can run from 3 to 12V dc with 300 mA.

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Post by DeadlyKungFu » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:02 pm

Wow, I hope you do well, that's great you made it this far. I have some smart ass comments to make though, business is business.
faderfox wrote:another idea: share the shipping costs by order in a bulk
No, you send them here, lower the price THEN we'll order them in bulk at a lower price, say $100.
faderfox wrote:I have increased the price for micromodul about 40 euroto keep the high quality of a really 'german' hand made specialized device.
LMFAO!!! You mean 'German' upselling marketing bullshit. As a business model, prices go down as production commences, all the pieces should be in place.
faderfox wrote:pay attention that faderfox is a one-man-company and I manufacture small lotsof course this fact reflects on the prices
Will this effect customer service? Can you answer e-mails and the phone while repairing/fixing/shipping/receiving/tracking all that BS.
faderfox wrote:please don't compare micromodul to any mass production stuff
and it's always good to support the indpendents, the ones just crazy enough to pull it off.
faderfox wrote:forget the cost/benefit ratios and start playing.....
:lol: stop reminding us!! Geargeeks aren't dumb.


I'm not trying to be a jerk, it comes naturally. If this wasn't a small company I'd be harsher. Best of luck, I hope it all buys you a really 'german' hand made specialized car.

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:08 pm

Shit. I E mailed Faderfox a few days ago just to double check on certain features. The LX2 is exactly what i need. I was ready to go...but i agree with those holding out due to shipping costs. I will wait as well.
IMO, regardless of shipping costs, i feel the cost is too much. I understand it is a one man operation and the time and effort put in i am sure is great, but, if i could save some cash at the expense of portability, so be it.


I may be more enticed if it were powered by USB.

BUMMER!!!!!!!

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Post by Kodama » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:39 pm

Former Pharaoh wrote: I may be more enticed if it were powered by USB
Yes USB connection is important to laptop people!
GO VEGAN!!! - Macbook Air, Bass Station II, Some Korg shit, Live Suite, U-He, Audio Damage, Microtonic, Ohmicide, more soft stuffs, awesome controllers, euro rack modular synth,an awesome cat.

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Post by rikhyray » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:49 pm

I dont think you need to defend your prices. i bought LX thinking is a bit expensive but once I hooked it up , realised that it is absolutely honestly priced. Guess any user will say the same.
Dont be upset by silly comments from people who do not have much idea about the world outside. Anyone of sane mind knows that there is a difference betweetn your high quality product and plastic trash that splits apart after few months of use, manufactured by people working for 20$ a month , sold for 400% or more of production cost.

And for those americans who might not be aware of absurd shipping prices in Europe it is really so. Faderfox shipping prices are exactly the real costs. I just bought 3 DVDs from Spain, shipping in Spain is 5 Euro, to Germany 35!!! The DVD set cosst 3.50!.
So people take it or leave it, you want Porsche or Kia , Moog or Casio?
Thanks Mr.Faderfox, your work and honesty is definitely appreciated by lots of musicians, including Americans.

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Post by HD1 » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:56 pm

I'm amused by the people who acknowledge that a faderfox module is a superior unit, but then also want it for a price something similar to a -behringer- , you get what you pay for folks.

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:56 pm

And for those americans who might not be aware of absurd shipping prices in Europe it is really so.
You said it, absurd shipping prices in Europe. Us silly Americans are NOT in Europe. Sounds like a personal problem Frankie.

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:00 am

RopeyPunter wrote:I'm amused by the people who acknowledge that a faderfox module is a superior unit, but then also want it for a price something similar to a -behringer- , you get what you pay for folks.

Give me one good reason why i should spend $350 on a faderfox as opposed to this

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Post by HD1 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:15 am

For your information, thats a fuckin mass produced two octave keyboard with faders and knobs attached.

a faderfox is an ultra small module controller, that is well made by an independent source who you can email personally with any questions or comments. they are also a better investment and are more likely to hold and potentially increase in value should mathias die in a horrific dentistry accident and the unit ceases to be produced.


if you're the type of philistine who compares processed cheesey strings with some perfectly matured bio-organic brie, and expects them to retail for the same sum, well maybe you should just go ahead and pick up the novation remote (which is a fuckin keyboard with extras and thus not strictly appropriate for comparison)

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Post by Former Pharaoh » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:35 am

So you have several reasons, as opposed to one, on why i should buy a faderfox. The reasons are:

1) It's not just small, but it is ULTRA small

2) It is well made by a source i can E mail

3) It's a better investment that could increase in value should developer die in a dentistry accident.


Well i must say i am absolutely convinced! I am E mailing Mathias right now and ordering TEN faderfoxes!

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Post by thelike5 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:49 am

Whoa... Ropey, The Former Pharoah has if I do recall, actually been a source of information regarding all things music on many forums including this one. Before you start knocking him for not wanting to spend $75 on shipping for a "pocket sized controller" and calling him a "Phillistine" you should remember that your contributions in the three week period you have been a member have been solely used to flame people with the spare 20,000 you had to spend on gear.

And dude, if you did indeed buy all that schwag with it, you should be busy enough LEARNING how to use what you got and not worry about us poor folk who can't justify spending $75 on shipping costs...

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Post by HD1 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:55 am

hehe, its microscopic compared to the novation 2octave keyboardplusfaders.

the fact is, mass produced gear wont hold its value as well as independently produced stuff. more products available - less value. less products available - more value. (more or less)

i just dont agree with acknowledging the faderfox as being a sweet-as-a-chestnut unit, and then being a cheapskate and comparing it to mass produced keyboard controllers, or whinging about the delivery charge.


theres no comparison, if you even compare the novation with the faderfox, with cash being the ultimate priority, well then you shouldnt even bother thinking about it and get a novation - it will make the cheapskate in you jump for joy. meanwhile, the non-cheapskates will be stocking up on quality gear and taping themselves having sex with hot blondes on marble floors.

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Post by thelike5 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:59 am

RopeyPunter wrote:theres no comparison, if you even compare the novation with the faderfox, with cash being the ultimate priority, well then you shouldnt even bother thinking about it and get a novation - it will make the cheapskate in you jump for joy. meanwhile, the non-cheapskates will be stocking up on quality gear and taping themselves having sex with hot blondes on marble floors.
Dawg, there's no time to tap SHIT when you post, boast, and talk as much shit as you do...

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Post by HD1 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:02 am

lol...
you'd swear I was posting here everyday the way you are talking. I happen to be downloading some stuff, is there some reason I cant opine on these forums ? I fucking own live, lest you assume I'm some bum with a crack.

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