I'm using ableton as a glorified loop pedal for capturing samples of falling nails, ripped selotape and guitar riffs. At the moment I can only work with a pre-defined loop length (click track)...
Is there a way of getting Ableton to set it's tempo and loop length from the moment I trigger the record loop start to the moment I switch rec off?
I'm using version 4 by the way...
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Define loop length by incoming sample record length
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penfoldplum
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NationalSandwic
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hi penfoldplum
i understand your problem all too well; this is a feature lacking in Live... i've posted a suggestion in the features wishlist to do just this.
the only way i've managed to work around this is to turn off quantisation altogether, and loop clips as accurately as possible...it's not easy, but if your timing's accurate it's possible.
else, if you have an audio interface with more than 2 outputs, you can use the metronome and route that to some other channel besides your master out. this is called Cue mode. So I tell Live to send the Cue Out to my Audio Output 3, and send my stereo master to Audio Outputs 1 & 2 (default). the gist is, the audience won't be able to hear your click track, and you can perform the tape-ripping, nail-dropping, guitar-parts to a tempo that you feel comfortable with. I find it's better to Tap Tempo in this situation so that the looping is more intuitive, cos from one performance to the next, sometime you'll want to go a little faster or slower.....
good luck
(oh and, btw, if you use ableton properly, it kicks a loopstation in the ass...i've wanted the boss loopstation FOREVER, but it's a very pricy piece of gear, and now ableton does the job great.)
i understand your problem all too well; this is a feature lacking in Live... i've posted a suggestion in the features wishlist to do just this.
the only way i've managed to work around this is to turn off quantisation altogether, and loop clips as accurately as possible...it's not easy, but if your timing's accurate it's possible.
else, if you have an audio interface with more than 2 outputs, you can use the metronome and route that to some other channel besides your master out. this is called Cue mode. So I tell Live to send the Cue Out to my Audio Output 3, and send my stereo master to Audio Outputs 1 & 2 (default). the gist is, the audience won't be able to hear your click track, and you can perform the tape-ripping, nail-dropping, guitar-parts to a tempo that you feel comfortable with. I find it's better to Tap Tempo in this situation so that the looping is more intuitive, cos from one performance to the next, sometime you'll want to go a little faster or slower.....
good luck
(oh and, btw, if you use ableton properly, it kicks a loopstation in the ass...i've wanted the boss loopstation FOREVER, but it's a very pricy piece of gear, and now ableton does the job great.)
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Stefanator
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Funny I just asked this same question in another thread. Well, too bad I was hoping it was a feature I just didn't "get" yet.
One thing I HAVE found to be kinda cool is to make your own click, of a sort. Just make a loop that will serve as the opener of your piece. I did a rolling coin last night which I then chopped up and messed with til I had a more interesting loop.
It is still a bit awkward, but I feel optimistic about its potential. It's certainly better than a metronome or some overkill drum loop.
One thing I HAVE found to be kinda cool is to make your own click, of a sort. Just make a loop that will serve as the opener of your piece. I did a rolling coin last night which I then chopped up and messed with til I had a more interesting loop.
It is still a bit awkward, but I feel optimistic about its potential. It's certainly better than a metronome or some overkill drum loop.