Ok so I got an effect I need to know what it is.............

[ILTK]

If you are going to be doing a lot if this kind of stuff with realy whacked out dnb style breaks check out GURU from FXpansion, you can whip stuff like this up in no time, it has a repeat and move sample start function that will let you make things like this like a piece of cake, you draw in your pattern, then you can draw in curves over your patterns to control sample start and repeat for each 16th note, turn up res/filter/pan/tune/sample offset and tons of other stuff.

Check out some demos here:

http://www.fxpansion.com/product-guru-mp3s.php

This one has a lot of what you'r looking for (Near the end):

http://64.91.231.30/demotunes/guru/stroudle.mp3

You can do this kinda stuff in vanilla ableton, but not as easy.

[80rn7rue]

Right Im obviously stupid I have tried everything people have said and it sounds wrong.....

I have posted up pictures of the settings on my delay and impulse and a picture of my snare roll midi pattern here http://www.putfile.com/80rn7rue

Can you see whta I am doing wrong?? I have also posted a clip of the sort of effect I am getting on that page called SAMPLE6480...

Sorry to be a pain but I really need to emulate this effect .......

[80rn7rue]

COOL gonna chk GURU out right now have access to it just never used it if it works I owe u

[David]

Hi,

Is this the kind of zingy sound your after -

Short Delay


Cheers

[80rn7rue]

I think I am after more than 1 thing at a time yes the short delay is kinda helpfull but i think i needed to be abble to glitch up what i made more found the artcle on setting up Vanilla very helpfull also..... Im sure i will work it out eventually I normally do very persistant i am .....

[Former Pharaoh]

You got the right idea with the snare. Just widen the clip more so you can add some more snare hits within the same amount of space. Hoepfully i am not confusing you.
Another trick is to write the stuff at a slower BPM then speed it up. You'll hear the difference.

[sonsofthehounds]

i couldn't hear the file you posted but ah reckon.......

beat repeat.

punch the repeat over ride button in and out when you want a roll set it to insert mix mode

Set it to 0% chance and then you can moduate the grid setting to create different roils and repeats better than repeating the same roll every time

otherwise,

try the free "bouncy' vst delay plug in for random drum effect shit...get your controller envelopes on the delay time....you'll probably find that the effect you were trying to create will be an afterthought once you modulate delay times on snares n shit....I've busted ma balls trying to re-create shit and to be honest it's just done ma fcking head in but i get where you're coming from

this gives me a chance to say much repsect to all who take time to develop free plug ins....truly fcking greatful to all

[Former Pharaoh]

GURU and the freebies are cool. If you do have some cash to spend and you don't want to spend too much, you can get EnergyXT for i believe 50 bucks (it's about $46). If you haven't checked it out, it is a full fledged modular DAW and it also has a "composer" feature which let's you do the effect you are after in a very easy fasion.
Just open the midi editor for the drum track, select the notes you want to compose, go to options, select "Show Composer" and you'll see a pull down menu. Select Slice Notes, enter the amount of slices you want....done.
There's other cool stuff you can do with the composer feature as well like randomize notes. Good stuff for IDM and/or DnB.
Check it out: http://www.xt-hq.com/

Try the demo, everything works in the demo version including saving your songs. The only limitation is you cannot reload saved songs.


EDIT: Almost forgot to mention, you can load EnergyXT within Live as an effect or an instrument. Do yourself a favor and get this thing if you can, you'll use it one way or another.

[ethios4]

I would try...
1) try faster snare roll...if 1/64 was not fast enough, go faster....it depends on the tempo.
2) Figure out the snare roll without the delay effect first. You can get the snare roll sound without delay. Instead of delay, try a flanger, but only after you've got the snare roll down.
3) Try dropping the volume of each snare hit of the roll, so that you get a nice decay. You might also pitch the snare up as well.

I usually do this kind of effect with audio, not midi. I'll take a recording of the Amen, pitch it up, and use Ctrl+D to Duplicate 1/64th chunks of the snare, with volume automation, to get the effect.

Good luck, and have fun experimenting!!

[gomi]

Cool 1 problem I am on osX and these seem to be xp only I have listened to theGlitch demo mp3's and it sounds very similar :D is there a mac equivelant???

max/msp

[Former Pharaoh]

oh, wasn't paying attn. ...nevermind on eXT. It's XP.