sweetjesus wrote:leisuremuffin wrote:I'm mystified too. With the way that i work, I've never heard the master bus clip without going red. In fact, i've had the master go into the red without clipping.
Maybe you're dealing with something that has some really really hot and short peaks but doesn't ever have a hot average. I'm not sure how like's metering works, if is it peak or RMS and how fast it reacts. Why don't you throw an inspector plugin on the master of the session you have a problem with and let us know what it says?
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.lm.
I'm the first to admit when i am wrong and in this case i have been wrong, although i havent done any technical analysis it seems that live at its max green setting is hotter than the clip limit of my Layla24.
From memory, I don't recall having this issue in Cubase SX however, I will check and get back to you guys.
In fact I actually have a channel going into red, and it sounds clip free to me in the mix...
The only thing that made me suspect the compressors were that I had two on the Master, one for small transients and one for the longer chunks of sound.
ehem. Just to try to get this thread back on topic.
That's odd, you're overloading the layla's DA i guess. crazy.
anyway, i have to say that i have heard the filter plug distort and a couple others distort with out their little meters going red. you know, the meter on the actual plugin, not the track. I don't think this is from clipping though, i think this is from behaivior of the plugin.
Also, i'll agree that the metering on the master could have more options, but for now, i'm happy using the free inspector plugin for when i need it.
So, in conclusion, i agree that metering could be better, but it's not a priority. The master will turn red before you hear distortion. But i do not agree that there is somehow different headroom on live's master vs. other softs.
.lm.
