Live 3 is fantastic!!!!

neuronaut · Post by **neuronaut** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:40 pm

You peeps keep out doing yourselves!!!! This is amazing software. Once again, changing the landscape of music forever!

Yay ABLETON!!!! YOU ROCK!@!!!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:58 am

absofookinlootly!!!!!!!

anyone who says otherwise hasn't figured out properly what it can do yet!!!

sixela · Post by **sixela** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:02 pm

four beautiful, beuatiful words.......

CLIP AUTOMATION
SAMPLE OFFSET

they can, go together but hold equal meaning on their own!

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:37 pm

While I have a bit of gear that is more or less redundant or replaceable, I couldn't make the music I'm making these days without Live3. So in essence, Live3 can be said to be as important as the electric guitar is to me.

Thank you again, Ableton.

-Paws

sixelaa · Post by **sixelaa** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:09 pm

I keep finding I'm looking at the task bar to see what programs i've got loaded at the moment and realise it's just live. Nothing else. I load up a sound source, fruity, reason, reaktor, whatevr, record it into live, then quit it.

ray · Post by **ray** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:31 pm

Live has allowed me to complete my tired, much delayed album! For that alone..I'm indebted to Ableton. Factor in all the new shit and quite frankly, I feel lucky to have a PC and some ears!

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:51 am

I can't recall when I last used Live.

Compared with my other audio apps, Live's poor, buggy performance has become a hindrance.

I'll be waiting for v4, I think. No fanboy zealotry for me.

Thanks,
Alex

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:12 am

you forgot one option

11. does live make a good fish sandwich?

both alex, epilacs and i agree.... sure.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:02 pm

Alex Reynolds wrote:I can't recall when I last used Live.

Compared with my other audio apps, Live's poor, buggy performance has become a hindrance.

I'll be waiting for v4, I think. No fanboy zealotry for me.

Thanks,
Alex

good to see that though you don't use the program you still like to hang out on the forums and repeat the same boring thing you say 5 times a day in other posts, yep, you must make TONS of music, i can tell you spend a lot of time on it

guest · Post by **guest** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:29 pm

Right!
Go Alex, please leave this forum and never come
back with your boring remarks!!!!

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:17 pm

So are you complaining about the content of what I'm saying, or the fact that I'm saying it?

And can you set up an account and log into it before you post again?

That way I can pretend that I'm responding to someone who is serious as opposed to just trolling.

Cheers,
Alex

::mic-minimal:: · Post by **::mic-minimal::** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:21 pm

Alex you know that's not fair, I could see if you were some mac user who knew nothing about live and was just a 'fanboy zealot' of the macintosh variety but you actualy know what you're doing, performance drag aside not even radial can touch ableton, don't go all fox news on us methinks you could be a little bit more fair and balanced.
in the spirit of being fair I have to concede that it looks like ableton did drop the ball when it comes to mac users, not because they haven't made up the difference in performance between the two platforms, honestly I don't think they could do that no matter how good they coded Live, I truly believe the majority of the performance diff is apples fault but the reason I say 'drop the ball' is because ableton didn't do all they could as evidenced by all they are going to do now for the mac platform. I think it was just a matter of poor planning at the onset, I've never manufactured my own software and started a company for it it must of been a huge undertaking, but they've been true innovators and made some great software so you gotta give'em credit where credit is due. So what if I didn't get to get that powerbook I wanted and I got another pc instead, by
the time ableton comes out with version 4 mac juice included hopefully apple will have it's f*ckin retarded act together and the G5 Laptops will make for a delicous hybrid platform system. in the mean time if you got a cheap ass pc laptop for the interim you'd be very much back into using Live.

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:58 am

Mic-minimal wrote:don't go all fox news on us methinks you could be a little bit more fair and balanced.

Ouch, that's a low blow. I'm all CSPAN, baby.

Mic-minimal wrote:in the spirit of being fair...the reason I say 'drop the ball' is because ableton didn't do all they could as evidenced by all they are going to do now for the mac platform. I think it was just a matter of poor planning at the onset, I've never manufactured my own software and started a company for it it must of been a huge undertaking, but they've been true innovators and made some great software so you gotta give'em credit where credit is due.

That's why I haven't given up. If the fourth rev is any good I'll happily pay the upgrade fee. But the demo of v3 is as much of a dog as its predecessors. The new plug-ins are nice but not worth the fee.

And the constant cheering going on is annoying, so in the meantime I'm going to counter with my grumpy, boring negativity. It's time to put a harsh on your mellows, dudes.

Mic-minimal wrote:in the mean time if you got a cheap ass pc laptop for the interim you'd be very much back into using Live.

I would rather be tied to a chair and forced to watch O'Reilly mouth off than wasting time and money on cheap Wintel junk for one application, or put more money in a convicted monopolist's pocket. What a poor solution to the problem.

-Alex

sixela · Post by **sixela** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:18 am

ooooh now this is slightly upsetting me.

Alex, I'm sure from your posts that you are experienced in this field and seem to know what you're talking about, I hate to say it but i don't think you've properly used live 3. You couldn't have. I've been using it since the very first public beta and I am only really now starting to get a feel for just how amazing it really is. The clip automation stuff sets it well apart from anythig else.

We're now heading in the realm of 'sound sculpture' rather than linear, band format style midi sequencing that dance music's only just starting to shake - pretty soon the old notion of the archaic 20th century style guitar band type instrumentation of bass, drums, lead instrumentation that we've all got stuck on will have eased out of our consciousness and we'll start thinking en-masse about the abstracts of music again - like in the days of the classical composers - where they used a large orchestra to convert their thought and feelings into an expression, we can use literally anything, any kind of sound, any number of sounds in the line up - bass, guitar, drums has done all it can, it's a very limited line up.

So the point of this bizarre stoned ramble is that live, above else, bar maybe reaktor, has turned the approach on it's head and put the emphasis on warping sounds into something different, rather than jst making a few drum pattern, bass lines and things. The next step I think is vrtual reality sound sculpture - imagine putting gloves and goggles on and then 'sculpting' a wave form into the kick of your chice then 'bouncing' it like a ball in time with the song tempo - literally playing sounds like they're objecs in a 3d environment!

It would have my vote anyway (and credit card number - in fact if i could buy a program like that, I would never do anything else, but live to give the creater money) .

lasers and their beams · Post by **lasers and their beams** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 2:01 am

It is Alex' persistence that led to Gerhard's V4 promise to us and we all know it. Much of the jingoism here was spurned by the recent wacko behavior on these forums that is soiling the product, and which would be cured by a registered-user forum, another fight we should not give up. All Alex has said is we will not get, nor should we expect, anything if we don't ask for it.

Live 3 is fantastic!!!!

How much do you like Live?

Live 3 is fantastic!!!!