yah i was on page 3 when i repliedrobin wrote:See above
ha ha
"Apple does Windows too"
Re: screw dual booting.
ha ha
Re: screw dual booting.
heh hehgomi wrote:
yah i was on page 3 when i replied
ha ha
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Machinesworking
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That's what I was planning on doing until a friend decided to pretty much give me his dual 2.5 G5 for next to nothing.MrYellow wrote:Rebooting all the time just to use a program..... Used to have to do that
for a few things where I had specially tweaked hardware profiles but got
more CPU now...... I think you'd probably find it better to just run 2
computers with KVM, a cheap PC for a few progs wouldn't set you back
much at all.
-Ben
So being able to boot XP is going to be really cool on the merom macbook I buy in early Fall! That way I can use XP synths etc.., yet still use certain live plug ins like Musolomo that are only out for mac, when I play live with Live.intel core altivec?
Vector execution units
From the perspective of Apple fans who were vexed by the loss of the much-loved AltiVec, one Core's most significant improvements over its predecessors is in the area vector processing, or SIMD.
As noted above, 128-bit floating-point arithmetic operations go into the two FADD/VFADD and FMUL/VFMUL pipelines. So these two units handle both vector and scalar floating-point operations. Both of these pipelines are also capable of doing floating-point and vector register moves. Finally, I'm guessing that the FMUL/VFMUL pipeline also does vector square root operations.
For integer vector operations (64-bit MMX instructions, and 128-bit SSE integer instructions), the picture is a bit murkier. From what I've been able to gather, the vector integer units on ports 0 and 1 appear to have been retained and widened to 128 bits for the purposes of single-cycle 128-bit vector integer computation. I'm currently assuming that, as with the PIII, one unit is a 128-bit VALU/shift unit and the other is a 128-bit VALU/multiply unit.
There's a fifth 128-bit vector pipeline on port 2, about which little is known except that it does vector register moves. I suspect that it also handles SSE shuffle operations (hence the name VSHUF I've assigned it) and vector reciprocal and reciprocal square root operations. This unit would be the rough equivalent of the AltiVec vector permute unit that exists on the PowerPC G4 and 970. (For a handy discussion of AltiVec vector permute and SSE shuffle instruction equivalences, see this Apple reference page.)
From the perspective of Apple fans who were vexed by the loss of the much-loved AltiVec, one Core's most significant improvements over its predecessors is in the area vector processing, or SIMD.
As noted above, 128-bit floating-point arithmetic operations go into the two FADD/VFADD and FMUL/VFMUL pipelines. So these two units handle both vector and scalar floating-point operations. Both of these pipelines are also capable of doing floating-point and vector register moves. Finally, I'm guessing that the FMUL/VFMUL pipeline also does vector square root operations.
For integer vector operations (64-bit MMX instructions, and 128-bit SSE integer instructions), the picture is a bit murkier. From what I've been able to gather, the vector integer units on ports 0 and 1 appear to have been retained and widened to 128 bits for the purposes of single-cycle 128-bit vector integer computation. I'm currently assuming that, as with the PIII, one unit is a 128-bit VALU/shift unit and the other is a 128-bit VALU/multiply unit.
There's a fifth 128-bit vector pipeline on port 2, about which little is known except that it does vector register moves. I suspect that it also handles SSE shuffle operations (hence the name VSHUF I've assigned it) and vector reciprocal and reciprocal square root operations. This unit would be the rough equivalent of the AltiVec vector permute unit that exists on the PowerPC G4 and 970. (For a handy discussion of AltiVec vector permute and SSE shuffle instruction equivalences, see this Apple reference page.)
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It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.
an application that is a "universal binary" means that it can run on both PPC and intel-based MacIntosh hardware running OSX 10.3.9 or higher. at this point in the space-time continuum, it bears no relevance towards Windows OS, AFAIK.forge wrote:I'm really interested about this - what exactly does "universal binary" mean? it kind of suggests that you can run either or - are we moving towards a setup where you can just run any components of either OS all at the same time - not even bother loading the OSX or Windows shell and just load live plus the plug-ins you want weather they are mac or PC - so if the PC version of live runs better then run it and eventually there will only be "universal binary" and no mac or PC versionsnowtires wrote:now what they need to do is, when they get the quad core mactels, figure out a way to boot up both osx and xp at the same time, each using one dual processor a piece. you could run everything you wanted in osx and have the xp running gigasampler or fruity loops! oh man, i haven't used fruity loops in years.
does anyone know how likely that is?
)hm)
neener neeener neeenernoisetonepause wrote:It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
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You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for thisgomi wrote:neener neeener neeenernoisetonepause wrote:It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.
If this was college, you would be too drunk to be botherednoisetonepause wrote:You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for thisgomi wrote:neener neeener neeenernoisetonepause wrote: It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...
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Well, my member title on the SOS forum is Blouse Wearing Nancy...gomi wrote:college is for sissies.noisetonepause wrote: You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for this
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.