SNOBS vs. ABLETON LIVE

[Zerobae]

they´re mostly producing boredom, clean, polished boredom, along a very safe route, just taking the proven corners, and totally irritated when something strange happens. then they´re waiting till it´s proven "right" and then they steal it.

Very well put.

[ploy]

different people, different jobs, different needs, different apps, different results.

sure, that´s the base. but a war isn´t stop by waiting for it´s end.

[SubFunk]

war? why do you not just use what fits you?

eh, you do. so what a war for then?, has that ever been any good?
only complete brain disabled people fighting wars.

hey just being cheeky here, even that's true, but however live has it's place in the world of music making, but i respect people who think that it is not on the highest level of what is possible or what certain people simply need. if it does satisfy someone, than that's the purpose served.

as i said it depends on what you need and want in the first place.
there are thousands of people even making with FL or simpler progs great music. that is out of question, just making good music with a certain tool does not make the tool necessary very good, you can cut a slice of bread with a really blind knife, if you are hungry... who cares? as long as you don't starve anymore. (hmmm, just being a metapher)

apart, we are on the live forum, so i assume that everyone here is using it and there for liking it. or am i wrong? that's why we are here in the first place, right? and i said this already several times, i like it and use it a fair bit, a lot for my own stuff, but mainly before the final production, but there is no way that i rely on it for client work i do on a daily basis, it's simply to weak for that sort of work, clients expect from me.

still it is a very good and inspiring tool, i use very much.
and that's just an experience and about my personel needs, nothing else.

and again, agreed that people who never used it and 'bitchin' about it are just, well big... XXXXX (fill in whatever suits you)

i have a have a colluege like that, i use from time to time his studio, and i do a lot of electronic breed stuff or even pure electronic stuff, but he is blindly into bands and guitars and pro tools, and i mean blind.
those people don't even know what they are missing. and he is about half the time in the business then i am, totally conservative and young, yuck!!, by the way i agree on the: if it is somehow to "progressive" that it is often dissmissed from conservative people / engineers we are talking about and once it's good or popular they jump on the bandwagon...

the only way to avoid that is to not act the same as they do. save your energy 'bitchin' back' only because they don't use your fave apps, just do your work better, then they do and you will win.

happy playing, mixing and music making.

[SubLik]

I agree with djadonis206 that it doesn't matter what you use, JUST don't get dissin' Sequencers unless you've tried them for yourself

Cheers

[SubFunk]

sublik wrote:

I agree with djadonis206 that it doesn't matter what you use, JUST don't get dissin' Sequencers unless you've tried them for yourself

exactly.

[DJ VAKIS]

does it really matter what other people use or think, it's what works for you, and if your happy thats the main thing.Be creative!!

I am with you.
And also look FATBOY SLIM he still uses an ATARI 1040ST with cubase and makes good music.