NI KORE + LIVE

[Aton]

Is Native Instruments KORE going to be a great thing for LIVE or will it just make it harder to use vst instruments? I can't figure out from all I read, how it will work with LIVE. Or does it? thanks for your help...I like the idea of KORE as an organizer of NI plugs but I can't see how it will work with LIVE better than the already "drag and drop plugins into each track---easy)

[Danny Futuro]

i'd imagine that Kore would eat up even more of your CPU, as it is a plugin hosting a plugin.

Personally, I'm a bit sad that I bought Komplete 3, because the only things I use are Pro 53, Absynth, and Reaktor. Live handles everything else for me.

[musick]

Is Native Instruments KORE going to be a great thing for LIVE or will it just make it harder to use vst instruments? I can't figure out from all I read, how it will work with LIVE. Or does it?

KORE is a complete joke, it's just an expensive way to manage your VST's. And looking at the track record of NI plugins it will never be stable (they will make a new version before the bugs in the old one are fixed) and be a CPU hog.

[b0unce]

ya - its a gimmick. I doubt it will do any better then final scratch in terms of bugs,support and quality of hardware.

which is bad...

[Hypomixolydian]

And looking at the track record of NI plugins it will never be stable (they will make a new version before the bugs in the old one are fixed) and be a CPU hog.

Just to defend Native Instruments a little, I must say that I have never had problems with any of their stuff. There products run extremely stable on my setups. Whether that means I am just plain lucky, I don't know, but I love using their synths!!
As far as Kore goes, I will wait till somebody like Sound On Sound give it a good going over and that I can try it out in my local music shop before I make any judgements.

[b0unce]

no..speculate with the rest of us!

[snowtires]

what is kore, firewire / usb / midi? i can't really imagine anyone is going to have a use for running more than like one or two ni plugins at once. well, i mean, of course people will, but christ, i have a g5 quadcore with 8 gigs of ram and i have b4 ii, eletrick piano and vokator, and with two of those running, everything slows down significantly. add in ANOTHER interface (on top of whatever i/o you're using) to sap cpu power, that's just stupid. those plugins aren't all that complex, just use your mouse.

[ewistrand]

It's USB... and the shell's minimum resources (under 2% on any semi-modern machine).

Kore with Live actually makes lots of sense for a few reasons. I'll give a couple quick examples...

Say you want a split/layere key part playing in a live situation, an your controller only sends on one MII channel. With Kore you can split and layer to your heart's content- even multiple instances of the same plugin on the same channel; each individually controllable.

Remapping automation IDs- you Reaktor users should be used to this one. You have a parameter you want to automate, but you can't tell which ID it belomngs to, and you have a list of 300 of them. With Kore, you just set up pages of the controls you want to automate (the first eight user pages supply host- recordable automation- any other pages will be just inside Kore) and there you go...

Seriously- try it when it appears at a store near you. I think you'll like it.

ew

[Bazz]

I think that there's the grain of a good idea at it's Kore......

But I do have worries about the hardware implementation and the fact that NI appear to be pushing it on the back if NI complete as some sort of super preset programer.

...and also the hope that Live 6 will make a lot of the functionality redundant in Live!

The idea of programing multi plug-in patches with key splits aand complex midi routings which can be moved between platform and host appeals. I don't however want to be tied to NI's non midi controller. (Just look at the problems with GR2!)

If Live 6 impliments folder tracks with nested VSTi's and midi plug-ins which can be saved as Live clips then I probably don't need Kore.