why in gods name did you sell it ? ..... you must have been under financial stress to go from a machinedrum to microtonic?steve-o wrote:I sold my machinedrum. I use microtonic and Live. My experience..
JoMoX vs. Machinedrum
I relate to where you're at with this, i've been agonising over the machinedrum myself, as a 'step up' from the ER-1 (and the EMX was also an option). But that's a lot of $$$.dbolt wrote:husker wrote:the JoMoX is real analog.... so you were half right in both your posts
The JoMoX is cool, but MUCH more limited in what you can do and the types of sounds you can create than the machinedrum.
The UW is only worth it if you want to have sampled drums (or sample during a performance). Personally I'm more interested synthised drums than sampled...
As a MUCH cheaper option, you can use the Drumular VSTi, and trigger from the Electribe R. The Drumular sounds better than the machinedrum to me...but depends on whether you want a standalone beatbox or not.
Good stuff!!!! I think the Elektron is so pricey b/c of its newness and some major muscians use it right now.
I like software I even use the Reaktor .ens Machine Gun sometimes and its sounds decent.
You know the more I think about I think I should spend that $1300 to $1500 on a new 17" imac duo.
I tried Microtonic, which is OK but didn't really do it for me.
THEN I found Drumular, and although it doesn't have a step sequencer (I'm happy to use the Live for sequencing)...it sounds fantastic. It out kicks the ER-1 which is a pretty good synth kick...also an amazing synth snare.
Though I see you are talking Mac, so Drumular won't be an option for you
hey dbolt, I'm not much of a musician at the mo - all of the stuff I'm doing is soundscape stuff for college (no beats or obvious melodies!). I havent had the machinedrum for long either, so I've been making kits and then jamming the rest of the time...learning to 'perform' the machinedrum, more then programming tracks with it right now. However, I'll record something for you. you should definatly check out //www.elektron-users.com and ask those guys some questions, they would be more then willing to brainwash you =) not a busy forum tho, so it can take a day to get a handful of replies
i would easily suggest you sell the electribes to finance a machinedrum, so long as you dont use them as samplers etc. if you want to get a drummachine-sampler thing, get an mpc or stick with what you got, if you want a wicked drum sequencer/synth/lofi sampler then you will certainly not be dissappointed with the machinedrum UW, mark my words. you will only regret taking so long to pick one up...
of course, if you are using live you could always let live take care of any hi-fi sampling duties you have. and let the machinedrum sequence it too if you like.
i would easily suggest you sell the electribes to finance a machinedrum, so long as you dont use them as samplers etc. if you want to get a drummachine-sampler thing, get an mpc or stick with what you got, if you want a wicked drum sequencer/synth/lofi sampler then you will certainly not be dissappointed with the machinedrum UW, mark my words. you will only regret taking so long to pick one up...
of course, if you are using live you could always let live take care of any hi-fi sampling duties you have. and let the machinedrum sequence it too if you like.
Im not a Pro by all means, but I do have my 1st track made with my ER1 mk2 which I'm not totally satisfied the Kick its somewhat weak and not very sonically powerful like I want it, but I let it ride. I almost always play the ER thru my microsynth guitar pedal to give it that more raw sound and it adds alittle color. I just posted it on myspace that song is called 15channelstutter ...My other most recent track that I used Stylus RMX for the Drums (now for computer drums RMX has some tasty Samples to tweak) and lots of processing to get it loud and thick and of course having to convert to mp3 really lowers the thickness of the track. Its called Breakfast for your Gut. Tell me does my sound seem to fit the bill for a Machinedrum or should I stick with what I've got???
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I have to totally disagree with b0unce - I found the machine drum to be completely underwhelming, especially for the price. I found the sound to be very digital and harsh, whereas I was looking for something warmer. I didn't have the UW version however; if I had known about the upgrade to UW I might have reconsidered. UW notwithstanding, I thought the entire unit was a let down considering the price.b0unce wrote:hey dbolt, I'm not much of a musician at the mo - all of the stuff I'm doing is soundscape stuff for college (no beats or obvious melodies!). I havent had the machinedrum for long either, so I've been making kits and then jamming the rest of the time...learning to 'perform' the machinedrum, more then programming tracks with it right now. However, I'll record something for you. you should definatly check out //www.elektron-users.com and ask those guys some questions, they would be more then willing to brainwash you =) not a busy forum tho, so it can take a day to get a handful of replies
i would easily suggest you sell the electribes to finance a machinedrum, so long as you dont use them as samplers etc. if you want to get a drummachine-sampler thing, get an mpc or stick with what you got, if you want a wicked drum sequencer/synth/lofi sampler then you will certainly not be dissappointed with the machinedrum UW, mark my words. you will only regret taking so long to pick one up...
of course, if you are using live you could always let live take care of any hi-fi sampling duties you have. and let the machinedrum sequence it too if you like.
In my experience, for the pumping thick thumping whatever drums, a quality compressor and or limiter is key, as are topnotch samples. If the basic sound of the amcine drum appeals to you then by all means get one. In my opinion its a niche item, and priced accordingly.
On a lesser note, same here. I was not very impressed with the Machinedrum's sound at all. Its synthesis, its sequencing ability, top notch, and it is THE digital drum machine to have out there, but to me the sound is quite digital and harsh. Not tinny or cheap-sounding by any means; it was quite hi-fi, but the lack of a good bass drum killed it for me.steve-o wrote:I have to totally disagree with b0unce - I found the machine drum to be completely underwhelming, especially for the price. I found the sound to be very digital and harsh, whereas I was looking for something warmer. I didn't have the UW version however; if I had known about the upgrade to UW I might have reconsidered. UW notwithstanding, I thought the entire unit was a let down considering the price.
In my experience, for the pumping thick thumping whatever drums, a quality compressor and or limiter is key, as are topnotch samples. If the basic sound of the amcine drum appeals to you then by all means get one. In my opinion its a niche item, and priced accordingly.
Storing loops, making kits, tweaking sounds on the fly, perfect, but that's why I have Ableton Live and my MPC. How often are you sitting on one drum machine tweaking parameters for a whole song?
Since it is the sound that you are after, I dont think Machindrum will do. i have impression that you know what you want, or at least know what does not satisfy you. Will Jomox do it? You have to hear, test it yourself or any other gadget otherwise chances are high you will be disappointed, it is your ears, mind, taste, nobody knows better.
I will test Jomox today or next days will let you know what my impressions are, I too look for "better" sound but at least I know that Machine drum isnt the solution ( great box for sure but does not cut it for me in the most important aspect- the sound)
I will test Jomox today or next days will let you know what my impressions are, I too look for "better" sound but at least I know that Machine drum isnt the solution ( great box for sure but does not cut it for me in the most important aspect- the sound)
for that matter, what have you guys found to do cool synthetic drum noises?
i'm sure we all know and love richie hawtin's sets, and many of those sets have the random blips and bzzt's that seem to be the Machinedrum's thing.
I already have a 909, so i want to see what other options there are for good rhythmic noises.
i'm sure we all know and love richie hawtin's sets, and many of those sets have the random blips and bzzt's that seem to be the Machinedrum's thing.
I already have a 909, so i want to see what other options there are for good rhythmic noises.
I wouldn't be so quick to sell my EMX-1 for anything yet... all you r going to get for it is $350 or so anyways if it's mint. I love my EMX-1!!!
As far as the Machinedrum, I couldn't afford one. Real nice though. Maybe try the M-audio prosessions sample cd of it?
The Jomox is great. Limited in sound sources but it does what it's supposed to and does it real well. If your into minamlism or maybe tech-house go for it. I've seen several people on Kompakt using them live on stage with a powerbook. They are excellent and can be had second hand now for around $400 - $475 range via ebay...
As far as the Machinedrum, I couldn't afford one. Real nice though. Maybe try the M-audio prosessions sample cd of it?
The Jomox is great. Limited in sound sources but it does what it's supposed to and does it real well. If your into minamlism or maybe tech-house go for it. I've seen several people on Kompakt using them live on stage with a powerbook. They are excellent and can be had second hand now for around $400 - $475 range via ebay...
Your right about the EMX 1 I don't want to sell it right away it has a lot possibilities sound and interface wise. I guess whats really got me shopping and eager to get a synthetic drum machine is b/c of my ER 1 mk2 lack of interface and sound design possibilites. I mean its very limited I can never use it without a guitar pedal to color the sound some way and the hi hat and crash are horrible like I've heard about the JoMoX. I also heard the JoMoX has one the best sounding BAss Drum sound out their. So my goal might reach alittle closer to the JoMoX.