looking for solfege stuff

abrac · Post by **abrac** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:58 pm

im trying to get it so my keyboard sings solfege back to me. Im looking for a program, or vst plugin, hell a bunch of wav files would be great.

anything would be great, thanks.

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:09 pm

The what?!

cashman · Post by **cashman** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:11 pm

I was thinking - 'Solfege?'

Aaah! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solfege

Couldn't you just record your own voice and put in Impulse?

Lo-Fi Massahkah · Post by **Lo-Fi Massahkah** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:54 pm

Wow... Wikipedia!

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:48 pm

You probably stand a better chance than anyone here at finding solfege samples online. Maybe more luck to have grab a music school singer to record them on pitch for you, and import into Impulse or another sampler?

you must be in music school, huh? Sight-singing classes are a bitch...I cried before most tests.

cashman · Post by **cashman** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:43 pm

It confused me when talking to musicians and having lessons in Brasil as they use Solfege instead of the A-B-C names I learnt, apparently countries with Latin-based languages do (if I read the Wikipedia entry correctly).

Having these samples would be handy to internalise the names of the notes in the scale, then we wouldn't have to translate into A-B-C every time!

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:02 am

It would also depend on what system of solfege you use. In one system, the absolute system, each of the 12 notes has it's own syllable. In the other system, the relative system, "Do" is always the tonic and each degree of the scale has it's own syllable.

The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!

forge · Post by **forge** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:26 am

My partner is actually teaching music to pre-schoolers - she doesnt have anything like that, but seriously - do it yourself - you could easily use live to do that - just record them in - you can even tune them in the cip properties

get an instrument in simpler - dont know if there's a piano in the presets, but just play or draw in the notes on whatever sound will play a note, then record yourself singing it on an audio track while listening to the note in your headphones - each as a seperate clip - tune it if you need to so that it's the same pitch as the note, do it for each one, then assign them to the right notes on your keyboard - couldnt be simpler! (erm...sorry)

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:11 am

ethios4 wrote:It would also depend on what system of solfege you use. In one system, the absolute system, each of the 12 notes has it's own syllable. In the other system, the relative system, "Do" is always the tonic and each degree of the scale has it's own syllable.

The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!

also, i believe that the half-steps/black keys have different solfeggietto syllables when going up vs. down the scale.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:15 am

solfege is fuckin hard. i started trying to do it a little tiny bit but had a real rough time of it because i would feel like a total ass singing do-re-mi in my apartment

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:59 pm

longjohns wrote:
ethios4 wrote:It would also depend on what system of solfege you use. In one system, the absolute system, each of the 12 notes has it's own syllable. In the other system, the relative system, "Do" is always the tonic and each degree of the scale has it's own syllable.

The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!
also, i believe that the half-steps/black keys have different solfeggietto syllables when going up vs. down the scale.

Right you are, my friend.

cashman · Post by **cashman** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:23 pm

ethios4 wrote:The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!

Maybe I'm tired or not thinking straight for some reason, but why would that be the case?

minimal · Post by **minimal** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:32 pm

cashman wrote:It confused me when talking to musicians and having lessons in Brasil as they use Solfege instead of the A-B-C names I learnt, apparently countries with Latin-based languages do (if I read the Wikipedia entry correctly).

yes I learnt notes at the school in italian (I was born in the south of switzerland were we speak italian) and C is DO, D is RE, E is FA, F is SOL, A is LA, B is SI... pretty weird to get used to the new system.. but try to sing C D E F A B instead DO RE MI FA SOL LA SI....sounds more than alphabet lessons that music...

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:54 pm

cashman wrote:
ethios4 wrote:The relative system would obviously require 12 times as many samples!
Maybe I'm tired or not thinking straight for some reason, but why would that be the case?

because you'd have the sound "do" at all 12 pitches, etc.

thinking about having a sample bank that would play solfege samples--- sounds really useful for learning! but to get the different samples to play at different times on the same keys would seem to be difficult.

could you do something like this in bidule? with a logic operation incorporated into your patch?

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:59 pm

i've got one for you, get to the point where you can do solfege like nobody's business and then try learning atonal singing. instead of do ri re, etc, you got 0, 1, 2, etc. where 0 is always c, 1 is always c #, etc. i had 8 semesters of aural theory (4 at one school 4 at another) and the last semester of the second school was all atonal. it sucked so bad. imagine trying to sing a stravinsky solo, using 0 1 2 3 4, etc. it's like trying to pat your head and rub your stomach at the same time.