pitch bend for vinyl feel....idea
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Guest
pitch bend for vinyl feel....idea
if you made the center parameter of pitch bend changeable so you could use it for tempo without it resetting to 130 bpm everytime it's in the middle, you caould use the pitchbend to speed up or slow down slightly - so maybe even have a couple of options of how to set pitch bend - either latch mode so it grabs the tempo of wherever you hold the PB wheel for a length of time or touch mode so it slowly speeds up or slow don every time you nudge the pitch bend. The current method of restting at 130 if you use pitch bend is useless unless you plan on doing a live set that stays at 130 bpm
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volki
global pitch change
I did not really get the above mentioned suggestion...
This one is easy :
i simply need a controller for a global pitch change,
to match the whole pitch of a song to a live situation...
(like transpose function on any midi keyboard...)
cheers
volki
This one is easy :
i simply need a controller for a global pitch change,
to match the whole pitch of a song to a live situation...
(like transpose function on any midi keyboard...)
cheers
volki
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Guest
Re: global pitch change
i.e using the pitch wheel to 'nudge' the track tempo like vinyl - perhaps combined with another knob to use like a record players' pitch controlvolki wrote:I did not really get the above mentioned suggestion...
at present if you use the pitch wheel to control tempo it resets the tempo to 130 when the pitch wheel rests in the center , which is no use unless everything you do is 130
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montrealbreaks
SIMPLE way for Ableton to implement beatmatch pitch control
here's a SIMPLE way for Ableton to implement beatmatching pitch control:
Think about a CD player with pitch control. There's the pitch slider and two nudge buttons. Seems to me that if you map the tempo to a midi CC, the range is determined in master tempo track of the arrange page. That is to say, if you set your view to 30 min and 200 max, you will get VERY coarse changes of tempo. But, if you set it to 120 min and 130 max, (if you're playing at that tempo anyways), you will get much finer control.
Then, all Ableton needs to add is to have two button controls available for "nudging" the time faster or slower. Naturally, we would want to define the ammount of "nudge", be it 5 bpm or whatever, in a text box. Note on (or CC 127) would instantly increase / decrease the tempo by the set ammount, and Note off (or CC 0) would return the tempo to it's original state. With a master tempo range that is relatively small (as set in the arrange page for master tempo automation), you can get VERY precise in your mixing. Just make sure that if you use MIDI CC messages instead of notes, that your controller has it's buttons set to momentary - with 127 transmitted on pressing it, and 0 transmitted on release.
L8er
Montrealbreaks
Think about a CD player with pitch control. There's the pitch slider and two nudge buttons. Seems to me that if you map the tempo to a midi CC, the range is determined in master tempo track of the arrange page. That is to say, if you set your view to 30 min and 200 max, you will get VERY coarse changes of tempo. But, if you set it to 120 min and 130 max, (if you're playing at that tempo anyways), you will get much finer control.
Then, all Ableton needs to add is to have two button controls available for "nudging" the time faster or slower. Naturally, we would want to define the ammount of "nudge", be it 5 bpm or whatever, in a text box. Note on (or CC 127) would instantly increase / decrease the tempo by the set ammount, and Note off (or CC 0) would return the tempo to it's original state. With a master tempo range that is relatively small (as set in the arrange page for master tempo automation), you can get VERY precise in your mixing. Just make sure that if you use MIDI CC messages instead of notes, that your controller has it's buttons set to momentary - with 127 transmitted on pressing it, and 0 transmitted on release.
L8er
Montrealbreaks