LIVE FIVE PERFORMANCE TEST - results here
no stalls, no skips. graphics keep pace (which was unheard of on the 12" pb). i just started adding and adding audio tracks (with unique audio files on each), and i've got it up to 42 tracks and counting with no skips at 512 buffer size. granted, that's with the stock hard drive with almost nothing on it (and a really unscientific test)...but damn! oh, and thats with every single track warped in texture mode, and it only hits 45% cpu. and keep in mind thats with stock hd and ram. running a few other apps i noticed the cpu meter jump every so often, but never heard an audio dropout (this was with the performance test set loaded).
Oh maaan. I was really thinking about getting the black one, but now these posts about them flaking and getting dirty is kind of a turn off (and ironic since you'd think white would be the one to get dirty). I think I may get the same one that you bought. I doubt there's much difference between the two processor speeds, and I plan on maxing out the ram. That many tracks running is unfathomable to me. My computer calls it quits around 10, and it rarely runs Live that great even when there isn't anything playing.
holy shitte! awesome! she is looking like a winner, bang for price, especially with a student discount. With a merom in her things will get kinky!scientist wrote:no stalls, no skips. graphics keep pace (which was unheard of on the 12" pb). i just started adding and adding audio tracks (with unique audio files on each), and i've got it up to 42 tracks and counting with no skips at 512 buffer size. granted, that's with the stock hard drive with almost nothing on it (and a really unscientific test)...but damn! oh, and thats with every single track warped in texture mode, and it only hits 45% cpu. and keep in mind thats with stock hd and ram. running a few other apps i noticed the cpu meter jump every so often, but never heard an audio dropout (this was with the performance test set loaded).
42 tracks>!?!?! WTF!? This is awesome. Just wait until 6 is out! BOOM! I wonder, any difference on the macbook btw XP and OSX?
no prevailing genre of music:
http://alonetone.com/glu
http://alonetone.com/glu
good good, happy people (hi cuz)
this is pretty much in line with what i've tried on my p4. 40 tracks in beats mode = 65% on a p4 2.8. live 6 should see you all quite happy with your dual processors
ps glu, you had to go and mention the student discout issue! now i will be tempted to get a macbook before the fiancee graduates at the end of summer!
this is pretty much in line with what i've tried on my p4. 40 tracks in beats mode = 65% on a p4 2.8. live 6 should see you all quite happy with your dual processors
ps glu, you had to go and mention the student discout issue! now i will be tempted to get a macbook before the fiancee graduates at the end of summer!
bingo!longjohns wrote: ps glu, you had to go and mention the student discout issue! now i will be tempted to get a macbook before the fiancee graduates at the end of summer!
no prevailing genre of music:
http://alonetone.com/glu
http://alonetone.com/glu
DJSK wrote:The reality is that when it comes to Ableton OSX just doesn't perform as fast as windows. I am not the first to discover this either. I had heard alot of rumors but now from my own findings I know it to be true. I don't prefer one or the other though, I just like having the ability to use both. I do notice OSX to be alot more secure as far as spyware and viruses (which definately helps Ableton to run more smoother) but when it comes to processing power Windows get's it done hands down.
just thought i'd chime in..
live 5.2 with runs the same in windows and in osx on my macbook.
i have tested it with identical sessions.
they are EQUAL!
powerpc macs well.. sorry, your time has come.
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flaking should not occur on all of them and if they do then it should be covered with warranty. not to mention if this isn't just a specific batch thats messed up apple will prob change something.erichkopp wrote:Oh maaan. I was really thinking about getting the black one, but now these posts about them flaking and getting dirty is kind of a turn off (and ironic since you'd think white would be the one to get dirty). I think I may get the same one that you bought. I doubt there's much difference between the two processor speeds, and I plan on maxing out the ram. That many tracks running is unfathomable to me. My computer calls it quits around 10, and it rarely runs Live that great even when there isn't anything playing.
anyways, my gf has a white one, well an old white g4 and it did get dirty after a while.
31%
Laptop Acer TravelMate4101WLMi
WinXP
1.6GHz Centrino M730
256MB RAM
built-in soundcard
58%
Desktop
WinXP
AMD Athlon Thunderbird [email protected]
768MB (SDRAM 133MHz CL2)
staudio DSP2000
5400rpm
Laptop Acer TravelMate4101WLMi
WinXP
1.6GHz Centrino M730
256MB RAM
built-in soundcard
58%
Desktop
WinXP
AMD Athlon Thunderbird [email protected]
768MB (SDRAM 133MHz CL2)
staudio DSP2000
5400rpm
Try using some of the www.musicxp.net tuning tips settings and then see how much faster it works.gomi wrote:DJSK wrote:The reality is that when it comes to Ableton OSX just doesn't perform as fast as windows. I am not the first to discover this either. I had heard alot of rumors but now from my own findings I know it to be true. I don't prefer one or the other though, I just like having the ability to use both. I do notice OSX to be alot more secure as far as spyware and viruses (which definately helps Ableton to run more smoother) but when it comes to processing power Windows get's it done hands down.
just thought i'd chime in..
live 5.2 with runs the same in windows and in osx on my macbook.
i have tested it with identical sessions.
they are EQUAL!
powerpc macs well.. sorry, your time has come.
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Danny Futuro
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Apple Macbook
2.0 ghz Core Duo
29-31%
1gb ram
60gb 5400rpm HD
Built-in Audio
this is with the .kext file removed. a few thing to note about this:
with the kernal extension in place, the CPU clock speed fluctuates, based on the need for higher CPU clock speed. idle clock speed is 1.5ghz. average clock speed thru live 5 test was between 1.33 and 1.5ghz. tempertures in the range of 68-81 degrees, based on workload. No mooing.
with the kext deleted, the idle clock speed is 1.66ghz, and remains constant, regardless of the processor workload. the coreduotemp CPU strain did not surpass 21%. tempurture is between 68 and 72 degrees. constant mooing.
in all honesty, for core duo owners, the live 5 performance test doesnt mean shit, thanks to the CPU throttling. Look at it like this: when running the test WITH the extension, it performs the same as a 2.1ghz G5, because the OS sees that more performance is not necessary at that workload. however, when running another test alongside a 2.1ghz G5 in which the G5's processor workload was 80-83%, the core duo barely broke the 55% mark!!!! Throttling is your friend, if you're a core duo owner.
i tried puting back the .kext file but upon booting, i get a message saying I did not install it properly. how do i get it to work again?
2.0 ghz Core Duo
29-31%
1gb ram
60gb 5400rpm HD
Built-in Audio
this is with the .kext file removed. a few thing to note about this:
with the kernal extension in place, the CPU clock speed fluctuates, based on the need for higher CPU clock speed. idle clock speed is 1.5ghz. average clock speed thru live 5 test was between 1.33 and 1.5ghz. tempertures in the range of 68-81 degrees, based on workload. No mooing.
with the kext deleted, the idle clock speed is 1.66ghz, and remains constant, regardless of the processor workload. the coreduotemp CPU strain did not surpass 21%. tempurture is between 68 and 72 degrees. constant mooing.
in all honesty, for core duo owners, the live 5 performance test doesnt mean shit, thanks to the CPU throttling. Look at it like this: when running the test WITH the extension, it performs the same as a 2.1ghz G5, because the OS sees that more performance is not necessary at that workload. however, when running another test alongside a 2.1ghz G5 in which the G5's processor workload was 80-83%, the core duo barely broke the 55% mark!!!! Throttling is your friend, if you're a core duo owner.
i tried puting back the .kext file but upon booting, i get a message saying I did not install it properly. how do i get it to work again?
Self-hating american.
to get the kext working again...
1. remove it again and restart.
2. drag back in.
3. repair permissions
4. restart again.
that did it for me, but i think it took a some messing around so there might be another accidental and now unkown step!
my battery life plummeted with the kext removed, so i'm good just leaving it in for now. i get so much more processor power than my last comp that now disk access is getting in the way, not lack of cpu power.
1. remove it again and restart.
2. drag back in.
3. repair permissions
4. restart again.
that did it for me, but i think it took a some messing around so there might be another accidental and now unkown step!
my battery life plummeted with the kext removed, so i'm good just leaving it in for now. i get so much more processor power than my last comp that now disk access is getting in the way, not lack of cpu power.