urgh!... APPAULED with macbook pro

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:53 pm

eyeknow wrote:
gomi wrote: all of my macs have worked right of the box, nothing has ever went wrong.

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Uhhhh, are you too young to remember 7.5!!!!!!!!

i never used System.

i was a windows/unix user until os x.

robin · Post by **robin** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:53 pm

mercyplease wrote:I stopped reading this thread by the fourth post. Three Mac zealots were enough for me. (I use a mac)

There are some balanced views from mac users in the last couple of pages too

jeskola · Post by **jeskola** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:22 pm

gomi wrote:
eyeknow wrote:
gomi wrote: all of my macs have worked right of the box, nothing has ever went wrong.

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Uhhhh, are you too young to remember 7.5!!!!!!!!
i never used System.

i was a windows/unix user until os x.

my first mac book pro was dead on arrival

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:31 pm

Digi V wrote:for the people bitching that Apple always pulls this "their always porting shit, changing stuff, nothing old works" blah blah

shut the fuck up. plain and simple. if you dont like it, move to windows. microsoft spends bulttloads of time making sure their horrible and anchient code is fully backwards compatible.

And this horrible and ancient code runs Live every bit as fast as OSX. Strange eh? Perhaps even ever so slightly faster, but that might be debatable because of the CPU throttling issues on the new Macbooks.

Digi V wrote: for that reason they will be always stuck behind true innovators. look at vista, i wonder when ya'll will finally get your hands on it? and when you do how far behidn will it already be?

Why on earth would I (or any PC musician) want Vista? I use my computer to make noises on, not to watch transparent menus and animated windows. You obviously have other priorites.

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:22 am

SubFunk wrote:eyeknow wrote:
Logic is VERY VERY VERY VERY deep and has taken allot of my time!!!
yes it is. you will discover earlier or later what you spend the time for.

sorry can't help myself, but using live more and more, shows that i will never get rid of logic, impossible.

live is only the freakin' bomb for a certain way of use, but has to many restrictions in other areas. and 6 will just scratch the surface of what i am talking about. one example is logics enviroment, there is nothing like it in any of the other audio apps.

enough, i love live, for what it is!.

Logic is becoming an addiction that is deeper than the best narcotics!!!!

Live is still a wicked app. The switch to macintel has pushed it "back" since it will be forever and a day for the apps to turn UB's.......which is why I went shockeroo and got logic!

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:29 am

gomi wrote:
eyeknow wrote:
gomi wrote: all of my macs have worked right of the box, nothing has ever went wrong.

.

Uhhhh, are you too young to remember 7.5!!!!!!!!
i never used System.

i was a windows/unix user until os x.

Well, you have to be ancient/old like me to remember. I think the machine I bought came with 8mb of ram. I remember getting 32 and thinking I was really flyin'!!!!!!!

Anyways, 7.5 (and all sequence up to before

was just dreadful...........nothing worked.......absolutely horrible.

Always reinstalled 7.1 untill 8 came out......"oh what a difference 8 makes"...........man, I'm old

robin · Post by **robin** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:47 am

Michael-SW wrote:
Digi V wrote: for that reason they will be always stuck behind true innovators. look at vista, i wonder when ya'll will finally get your hands on it? and when you do how far behidn will it already be?
Why on earth would I (or any PC musician) want Vista? I use my computer to make noises on, not to watch transparent menus and animated windows. You obviously have other priorites.

The audio subsystem in vista has been completly redesigned. So if they leave that in and don't drop it like they have for loads of other features then that's good news for musicians.

People resisted the move the XP, M$ will get you in the end. Every new PC will ship with it for a start.

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:09 am

robin wrote:
The audio subsystem in vista has been completly redesigned. So if they leave that in and don't drop it like they have for loads of other features then that's good news for musicians.

People resisted the move the XP, M$ will get you in the end. Every new PC will ship with it for a start.

But if you use ASIO you are already bypassing the Windows audio system. So we don't need Vista for that either. But I have no doubt that I will have to run it in a couple of years. New OS releases are the cash machine of MS (and Apple, with their new hardware pricing...)

robin · Post by **robin** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:14 am

Michael-SW wrote:
robin wrote:
The audio subsystem in vista has been completly redesigned. So if they leave that in and don't drop it like they have for loads of other features then that's good news for musicians.

People resisted the move the XP, M$ will get you in the end. Every new PC will ship with it for a start.
But if you use ASIO you are already bypassing the Windows audio system. So we don't need Vista for that either. But I have no doubt that I will have to run it in a couple of years. New OS releases are the cash machine of MS (and Apple, with their new hardware pricing...)

Nah the cash machine for M$ is the Office package.

I don't know enough about Windows to comment on your ASIO assertion. I thought that ASIO (and ASIO4all) were just driver packages and not the subsystem itself?

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:38 am

eyeknow wrote:

Logic is becoming an addiction that is deeper than the best narcotics!!!!

LOL, yeah it has replaced my daily smac dosis a long time ago

, prepare yourself discovering the real deepness after years of use to come... sometimes it feels endless, yummy!!, long live DR. Gerhard Engeling! what a brain.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:45 pm

robin wrote:I don't know enough about Windows to comment on your ASIO assertion. I thought that ASIO (and ASIO4all) were just driver packages and not the subsystem itself?

I think ASIO talks directly to the hardware or kernel. It does certainly bypass the standard windows audio system in some fashion, else it wouldn't be able to do what it does.
The thing is, ASIO is a 'patch' that Steinberg had to invent cos the operating systems at the time weren't up to passing audio around with acceptable latencies. Apple caught up and fixed their OS so we don't need to use ASIO on Macs anymore, and now MS apparently have too. Great for Windows users... It's just a principle thing, I reckon. I want my OS to be designed with me and my needs in mind.

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:36 pm

subterFUSE wrote:
I mean... think about it.... if you had gone in their store 1 day before the MacIntel's arrived.... they would have told you that the PowerBook G4 was more powerful than any PC. Then the MacIntel's come out, and they say that it's 4 times faster than the PowerBook. But it's just a PC with an Apple logo on it. So this means they are admitting PCs were 4 times faster than their PowerBooks.

HAhahhaa! That's a funny way of seeing it!

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:56 pm

eyeknow wrote:
Well, you have to be ancient/old like me to remember. I think the machine I bought came with 8mb of ram. I remember getting 32 and thinking I was really flyin'!!!!!!!

Anyways, 7.5 (and all sequence up to before was just dreadful...........nothing worked.......absolutely horrible.

Always reinstalled 7.1 untill 8 came out......"oh what a difference 8 makes"...........man, I'm old

my first computer was a timex sinclair with a cassette deck hooked up for storage.
it had 8kb of memory, but i bought the giant box to attach to it to make it 16kb of
memory.

you're not the only old one here.

my first "pc" was a 286 with 640k of ram and a floppy drive
hard drives were still years away from being affordable.

back then macs were multi thousand dollar luxury items
that stockmongering business men could only afford.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:57 pm

robin wrote: The audio subsystem in vista has been completly redesigned. So if they leave that in and don't drop it like they have for loads of other features then that's good news for musicians.

People resisted the move the XP, M$ will get you in the end. Every new PC will ship with it for a start.

yah it will almost (not really) be as functional as Core Audio!
amazing what they can do now in the 21st century!

capta1nA · Post by **capta1nA** » Fri May 26, 2006 3:19 pm

eyeknow wrote:
gomi wrote:
eyeknow wrote:.

Uhhhh, are you too young to remember 7.5!!!!!!!!
i never used System.

i was a windows/unix user until os x.
Well, you have to be ancient/old like me to remember. I think the machine I bought came with 8mb of ram. I remember getting 32 and thinking I was really flyin'!!!!!!!

Anyways, 7.5 (and all sequence up to before was just dreadful...........nothing worked.......absolutely horrible.

Always reinstalled 7.1 untill 8 came out......"oh what a difference 8 makes"...........man, I'm old

I'm not ancient and I remember back to 7.5.3......8 and 9 still had their problems too