Toggle between screen areas??

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Toggle between screen areas??

Post by )tomas( » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:52 am

Does anybody know a keyboard stroke or combination to toggle the control between the top area in Session view (the clips and tracks) and the lower area (clip and track view)?

I'm using a Novation Remote SL and would like to be mouse-free when djing. I'd like to select different devices in order to control them with the automapped controls (without having to mouse-navigate to the device) - and then toggle back to the clips to launch them.

Even better would be a way to assign a midi control to this toggling feature so that I can be keyboard (qwerty) free and use just the controller.

Thanks for any help you can offer.
Tomas

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Post by hambone1 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:11 am

http://www.autohotkey.com on a PC.

Assign any keystroke to mouse controls.

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Post by djastroboy » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:50 pm

Alt + Up/Down Arrow

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Post by )tomas( » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:51 am

Thanks for the tips. I'm just about to sit down and try to figure out how to set up autokey.

BUT....

The alt - Up/down does toggle between the upper and lower sections being active. The problem is that I can't seem to select different tracks in the upper screen, nor can I select different plugins/devices in the lower screen. All that I can do is highlight the upper or lower portions of the screen.

Here is the scenario that i'm trying to work with:
3 tracks, each with several clips in them.
2 devices per track (one beat repeat, and one eq3)

Without using the mouse i want to be able to select any clip in any track and then select either device in that track in order to manipulate the controls with the automapped ReMote SL.

Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot,
Tomas

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Post by djastroboy » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:57 am

When you alt-up to the session, alt-up AGAIN to get into a clip, then you can arrow around the clips.

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Post by )tomas( » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:59 am

thanks djastroboy.
that solves one issue. anyone know about selecting and moving between different devices (eq3 and beat repeat, for example)? the header-bar of a device needs to be selected in order for the remote SL to automap to it.

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Post by longjohns » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:48 pm

i've learned some good tips here.

can't figure out about the devices, other than it seems that if you click on one of the devices just once, then you can use the arrows to move the highlighted header around, even after returning focus to the session grid

also i noticed that if you toggle arrange/session views, that the clip grid appears to be always selected when you return to session. so another way of getting the arrows to control clip selection would be to hit tab twice instead of alt+up+up

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Post by )tomas( » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:18 pm

So I finally have a solution that works well.

I've used AutoHotKey to make keyboard shortcuts to several things. Using simple key combinations, I've programmed the mouse to click on the screen in specified places.
The script I wrote is below. Its pretty crude and simple, but it works better than I could have dreamed of. Its pretty specific to my setup, but can easily be adapted to anything. My setup is 2 tracks with all my clips, with an eq3 and beat repeat (in that order) in each track. ALso ther is a flanger in the A Return track.
Note that the script is specific for a fully maximized ableton 5 window in a 1280x1024 screen. There is a bit of tweaking necessary to adapt it to other setups because the position of things change if the I/O is clicked, or the crossfader is hidden, etc.


Ctrl-1 clicks on the header of track 1 then selects the device tab at the bottom right, then clicks on the eq3 and then clicks on the beat repeat. Clicking on another device before Beat repeat is important because sometimes the Automap doesn't recognize the selection untill you do this. Now the beat repeat is active in the automap and the buttons on the Remote SL are mapped.
Ctrl-2 does the same for track 2.
Ctrl-3 does the same for the flanger on A Return
Ctrl-9 (press 9 while holding down "Ctrl") opens the most recent set.
Ctrl-q clicks on the Track Status Display bar for track 1 so that I can see the waveform.
Ctrl-w does the same for track 2
Ctrl-. zooms in on the waveform a little bit, and then clicks on the Follow button
Ctrl-, does the same but zooms out.

Here is the script. Maybe somebody finds this useful.
^1::
click 300,116
click 1208,975
click 165,775
click 270,775
return
^2::
click 550,116
click 1208,975
click 165,775
click 270,775
return
^3::
click 1130,116
click 1208,975
click 165,775
click 270,775
return
^9::
click 20,40
click 20,100
click 300,100
return
^q::
click 300,560
return
^w::
click 550,560
return
^.::
MouseClickDrag, left, 770, 850, 770, 950, 0,
click 337,68
return
^,::
MouseClickDrag, left, 770, 850, 770, 800, 0,
click 337,68
return

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