[ot] myspace friend adder program?

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:59 am

How pathetic. Someone who needs 'virtual' friends, and admits it on a public forum.

Perhaps if the band was good enough, 'real' friends would show up..

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:38 pm

hambone1 wrote:How pathetic. Someone who needs 'virtual' friends, and admits it on a public forum.

Perhaps if the band was good enough, 'real' friends would show up..

myspace is the cheapest and best way to advertise independent music on the internet. my band is going on tour next month and the easiest way for us to advertise the gigs we have booked, a way that we KNOW people actually see, is myspace. we know they're looking because the people in our target audience aren't 30-something curmudgeon djs who talk shit on a computer program's forum all day, they're kids ages 16-25 who spend every waking minute on myspace (i.e. every concert-going kid alive, anymore), listen to music constantly and go to see live bands play every possible chance they can. i was one of those kids (well, i technically am, since i'm in that age bracket), finding out about a good new band is like winning the lottery. not once in the two years since we joined myspace has a single person said anything even remotely negative to us for sending an add request. thanks to myspace and word of mouth, in combination with an awesome live show, we've built up our fan base exponentially.

the first thing people (usually) do when a band sends them a request is to click on their page and listen to their music. right there below the music player, we have our tour dates. in the span of two seconds, they've clicked on our page, heard our music and saw where we're playing. if they like us and they see that we're playing near them, they are more likely to come see us than if they just saw a random flyer at a record store or venue (even so, we've still sent posters to record stores and venues).

we got 5000 'friends' just by sitting around and waiting for them to show up, which isn't too shabby if i do say so myself, so obviously we are 'good enough,' but those people are spread out throughout the country/world, so we need to make more contacts in the cities where we are playing so we can hopefully get a decent handful of kids to show up. without a label to pay for an advertising budget, we're forced to improvise. we're not adding people to get our friend count up higher so we look cooler, we're adding people in the specific areas where we have dates booked on our tour, so we can hopefully get them to come out to our shows. if the people we send requests to didn't want us to send them, they would select the 'do not accept add requests from bands' option in their profile and we wouldn't be able to send requests to them. i see nothing wrong with trying to help our band get a leg up.

p.s. to the comment about it being impossible to see mutual contacts - i can think of probably about a hundred bands whose myspace pages have 25,000+ friends, it's impossible to find anyone in their friends list, but that's not the point. the people who are their friends have a considerably lower amount of friends, so when the band posts a bulletin or sends out an invite, they are more likely to read it. the point of having a band page is to advertise, plain and simple. no matter how you look at it, that's what it is.

elektrovert · Post by **elektrovert** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:03 pm

^^^^^^^^ That right there is exactly what myspace is about (myspace music anyway)^^^^^^^^

it's like a self perpetuating promotional tool!!!

very handy.

people who like your music will add you, people who don't, won't.

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:16 pm

and more......

It's good for keeping in touch with other bands and organising gigs....

Like you'll be packing up all the gear, ppl will all be busy doing there thing,
you'll get a 2min convo here and there with the other bands...... Which
usually end with "You're on myspace right.... cool.... send us a msg and
we'll line up some gigs". Sure does beat writting down email addresses or
phone numbers.

MySpace is coded by complete morons tho.
It could actually work without needing to be reboot 500 times a day.

-Ben

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:17 pm

MrYellow wrote: MySpace is coded by complete morons tho.
It could actually work without needing to be reboot 500 times a day.

-Ben

is it definitely that? there is something like 75 million sites on there to manage , has anyone else had to contend with that many sites before? I'm not saying that as if I've got any idea at all, I just thought that sounded like alot

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:31 pm

i'm just surprised that they haven't gotten a 'stay logged in' feature like just about every other website on earth. yeah, you can click the thing to remember your email address, but it's kind of dumb that you have to log in every time you close your browser.

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:16 pm

we know they're looking because the people in our target audience aren't 30-something curmudgeon djs who talk shit on a computer program's forum all day,

Ouch!!

they're kids ages 16-25 who spend every waking minute on myspace (i.e. every concert-going kid alive, anymore), listen to music constantly and go to see live bands play every possible chance they can. i was one of those kids (well, i technically am, since i'm in that age bracket), finding out about a good new band is like winning the lottery. not once in the two years since we joined myspace has a single person said anything even remotely negative to us for sending an add request. thanks to myspace and word of mouth, in combination with an awesome live show, we've built up our fan base exponentially.

Now I get it. After reading your explanation, if I had a band targeted at that audience I'd be an idiot not to go the route you describe...thanks for taking the time to go through it such that even I understand!

r.

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:23 am

is it definitely that? there is something like 75 million sites on there to
manage , has anyone else had to contend with that many sites before?
I'm not saying that as if I've got any idea at all, I just thought that
sounded like alot

It's written in cold fusion, which is a kiddy programming language for RAD
development by non-programmers. It's designed for the boss with too
much time to create his own intranet, fuck it up, then hire a real coder.

Their database is constantly going to shit and they have heaps of lil
maintenance scripts to fix up all the corruptions.

It should really be on Oracal and written in C.... or at least PHP. I could do
the same thing, with 99.98% uptime, and no data leakage.

Google is like 100000x bigger then MySpace and they manage to serve
pages in a tiny tiny fraction of the time and easily get 99.98% uptime.

-Ben

rasputin · Post by **rasputin** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:14 pm

MrYellow wrote:
is it definitely that? there is something like 75 million sites on there to
manage , has anyone else had to contend with that many sites before?
I'm not saying that as if I've got any idea at all, I just thought that
sounded like alot
It's written in cold fusion, which is a kiddy programming language for RAD development by non-programmers. It's designed for the boss with too much time to create his own intranet, fuck it up, then hire a real coder.

Their database is constantly going to shit and they have heaps of lil maintenance scripts to fix up all the corruptions.

It should really be on Oracal and written in C.... or at least PHP.

Do you mean Oracle?

I could do the same thing, with 99.98% uptime, and no data leakage.

No offense, but I sort of get the feeling that if you can't spell "Oracle" right you wouldn't be my first choice to hire to maintain my 75 million page website...

r.

MrYellow · Post by **MrYellow** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:43 am

I was in the middle of 3 deadlines so forgive me

Don't have to prove myself to you.

-Ben

Anubis · Post by **Anubis** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:30 am

I think it's nothing but a sleazy meat market. But just to pay it safe, I'm on it

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:35 am

forge wrote:
MrYellow wrote: MySpace is coded by complete morons tho.
It could actually work without needing to be reboot 500 times a day.

-Ben
is it definitely that? there is something like 75 million sites on there to manage , has anyone else had to contend with that many sites before? I'm not saying that as if I've got any idea at all, I just thought that sounded like alot

it is a lot. But even if there was only 1 myspace page (which there must have been at one point) the interface would still suck giant ninja *ss.

[ot] myspace friend adder program?

OK, now I understand better...