how do you deal with girlfriend and music

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Post by kramerica » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:44 pm

djshiva wrote:and my response to the "toilet aiming cell" is based on the fact that i will NEVER use a restroom after a guy, because there is ALWAYS piss on the floor. that's nasty.)
Public toilets? Yes - we sprinkle and don't wipe. Who knows what was there before us.

Private toilets? No guy with any self-respect or class (apparently I have none on here) would miss and not wipe. I'm a stringent follower of the age old maxim "if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the seatie".
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Post by hambone1 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:44 pm

Thom Yorke/Radiohead is what I'll play if I have to DJ a funeral or assisted suicide...

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Post by jonathono2000 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:49 pm

I had the same problem and when I moved out all I took was a bag of clothes and my equipment. The next week she was begging me to come back and hasn't said a word about it since.

The funny thing is when I said,

"I took my equipment because I was afraid you would take a baseball bat to it because you hate it so much"

She said,

"I would have taken a baseball bat to it because I know you love it so much"

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Post by stinky » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:50 pm

The funny thing is when I said,

"I took my equipment because I was afraid you would take a baseball bat to it because you hate it so much"

She said,

"I would have taken a baseball bat to it because I know you love it so much"

damn, dysfuntional..

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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:52 pm

yeah that doesn't sound healthy....
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by mikemc » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:52 pm

I think the diagram is more a comment on some typical widely shared delusions, more than sexist.

I don't get political/socialogical, or even just social, usually, but in all seriousness, if you have a relationsnip and any activity is important and/or self-defining for you, then the other person just has to understand that.

Mainly, remember, if you are ever perma-coupled and have children, it's a lock you will share the task of changing diapers.
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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:26 pm

currently discussing the whole issue with my friend dusty on aim, whom juggles 3 kids and a wife and his music with total ease.... why didn't I ask him first...

the man is incredible in my mind simply for his ability to do that
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by stinky » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:29 pm

please, share this man's secrets, if you can.. i'm sure it will help us all out.. interested in what he does for a living, as well...

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Re: how do you deal with girlfriend and music

Post by thelike5 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:34 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:I've been with my girlfriend for 2 years now and ever since we've been together I do less and less and less music as time goes on. if I come home after work and try to do any music she says "fine don't spend time with me all you want to do is play with your computer!" and she gets mad. the funny thing is that if I say "I can't do music anymore with her around" she gets defensive and says "don't blaim it on me if you can't do music." it's rediculous. but I need to start spending more time on music. I'm starting to forget how which is bad. losing my soul ya know?
of course I'm totally not going to leave her, so the question is : how do you deal with girlfriends and music time?
how do you juggle the two without getting her mad?
Do you two live together?

Cause, me and my girlfriend don't live together and it's diffecult to try to do these things (music) and I'm wondering if this gets any easier when you live together?

Im constantly on the go to the point of exhaustion between work, side job, music, feeding a cat at home and grabbing my clothes for the next day and running over her house. I also don't drive, so, this stuff takes a bit of time...

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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:45 pm

so apparently he one day just got fed up and said "listen.. this is what I need and we need to figure out how to make this work. what days will work out for you for me to do music?"

he claims that if you act like the man and make the descision while remaining sensative to her feelings then it will just pan out. he says he just said "this is going to happen" but he found a way to make it sensative too..........wow.... he's impressive....
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by mikemc » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:46 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:currently discussing the whole issue with my friend dusty on aim, whom juggles 3 kids and a wife and his music with total ease.... why didn't I ask him first...

the man is incredible in my mind simply for his ability to do that
this is a good source. A friend of mine with 3 kids, after we had our first child and I was kind of marveling to him that I was coping even a little, laughed and remarked "that's nothing. It's not for real until you're [the parents are] outnumbered,"
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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:54 pm

yeah and I don't even have kids, he makes it seem so easy when he's got 3 and I can't even figure out how to work it with none... ha
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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:58 pm

oh he designs websites for a living, so he kinda has a slight advantage I think cause he's on the computer already for work so she's used to him being on the computer for "legit" reasons and then I'm thinking he can just slide into music mode without her noticing hehe...
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:37 pm

Any relationship I've ever had where my girlfriend didn't understand and respect and encourage my personal creativity didn't work out in the end. All that happened was that I later realized I had wasted a year or two of my life.

Don't want to sound too negative, but that's just the way things have panned out for me.

If it were me I would just tell her what I needed to be happy. If she didn't follow through with that I would move on.


I do think it's cool that you're a janitor. I'm curious what an Ableton janitor's music sounds like. Any links?

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Post by smutek » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:45 pm

It's all about balance.

Step back and look at the quality time you are giving to your music vs. the quality time you are giving to your girl. If you see something that needs to be changed then take action to change it.

I'm capable of sitting here in front of this monitor for days on end, so sometimes I need my wife to snap me back to reality. most of the times I get defensive, but when I step back and look I see that she is usually right. Like seriously, lately, if I don't have to leave the house I wont. I've become a real hermit.

Your case may be the opposite, maybe you just aren't spending enough time doing what you love and your girl is the one being unrealistic.

the goal is to step back, put your emotions aside, and assess the situation. if you see where things need to change make a game plan to change them.

Then, share this with your girl. Explain to her that you need certain times to do your music. You need to spend x amount of hours at-least dedicated to doing your music. And you need to spend x amount of hours alone doing your music. And most importantly you need to be able to do this without worrying that she is upset.

To offset this, regardless of how much time you already spend with your girl, set up an official "date night". And stick to it. once a week you go on a date with your girl. One week she decides what to do, and the next week you decide. or let her decide every week, or mutually decide. Anything from watching a movie, to going to a show, maybe just staying home and making love. Counter your music time with time, imtimate time, for just you and her. Just a suggestion.

Just make sure you are making time for her and giving her the attention she needs as your partner, but let her know that in order for john to be all john can be, john needs to make time for john too.

If you can get to this point and you feel she is still being unrealistic then you need to take a stand. not necessarily leave her, but you just put your foot down.

If there are times where she has agreed that "this time is johns time" and you see her encroaching on that be sure to point it out immediately. Don't be combative, just say well look, we agreed to such and such and for the last two weeks that hasn't panned out. I thought we were going to work on this?

You know, make her aware of what's going on and what she may be doing.

Your girl may be jealous of your passion towards music and/or art. It doesn't make her less of a person, just human. I went through that early on with my wife but eventually she accepted it and we worked out a balance. Like I said though, be open minded. I'm working on coming out of a long period of isolationism. i didn't even really see it, but like I mentioned earlier my wife pointed it out, out of concern.

Anyway.... I feel like a relationship is based on honest and open communication. And there will always be compromises to be made. There is nothing wrong with that, but it has to be a two way street.

Hope that helps.

***edit***

And not to sound rauchy or whatever, but seriously. If she is crashing at your place you can always give her some really good before bed lovin... generally after a good orgasm and the "after sex cuddle" my wife will fall sound asleep within 10 minutes.

perfect time to slip into the studio and make tunes till the sun starts rising and the birds start singing!

:wink:
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