You don't need Pro Tools Dude!

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:12 am

Im sick of these god damn pro tools snobs.. They all act like.. "if it ain't done in pro tools it couldn't possibly be professional sounding"

You and i know both know Ableton can whip up just as good, if not better, mix then pro tools.. And they call it a kids toy! Pffft.. I just don't get it. Hype, Hype, Hype... Pro tools is so mocha frappacino.. Im over it and the people that drool over it..

Ableton to the end. Quick and to the point!

silicon1138 · Post by **silicon1138** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:00 am

great bit of steam releasing !

i'd rather eat one of my own limbs than look at the protools GUI.

Jackal and Hyde · Post by **Jackal and Hyde** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:23 am

mdb wrote:Im sick of these god damn pro tools snobs.. They all act like.. "if it ain't done in pro tools it couldn't possibly be professional sounding"

You and i know both know Ableton can whip up just as good, if not better, mix then pro tools.. And they call it a kids toy! Pffft.. I just don't get it. Hype, Hype, Hype... Pro tools is so mocha frappacino.. Im over it and the people that drool over it..

Ableton to the end. Quick and to the point!

Yea. . . . Prodigy selling millions of (Fat of the Land) albums mixed on a crappy Mackie 8 bus when they were offered a $100,000 dollar SSL/Pro Tools studio session should squash that myth LOL. Build a ROOM and learn it.

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:vsq ... ent=safari < Read. . .

"Poison notched up as Prodigy’s ninth consecutive Top 15 single, the royalties were piling up, and Liam found he could book any studio he wanted. But he didn’t. The third album, Fat Of The Land, entered both the UK and US charts at Number One in July 1997—yet Liam had held on to his home-grown values. “We spent time in a commercial studio, but it couldn’t capture the same vibe. In fact, we made all the tracks for Fat Of The Land on the Mackie 8·Bus, and then we tried to go into the studio to mix. But we ended up back at my place, and I did the whole thing on the MACKIE 8·Bus.”"

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:36 am

Um, I use pt.....I'm not a snob

But I use live.....and I'm not a snob about that either

I use logicpro too...................not a snob.................but definatly eccentric!

freshdrumma · Post by **freshdrumma** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:18 am

i own 2 fukin prottols rig, one of them is a expensivee tdm with 3 dsp cards, and youi know what? the best mix i've done came out of live! just becouse i like it better, and i like to spend more time on it.

you shouldnt bother of what people says and just use whatever you like, i know guys still producing great music with an atari and notator.

anyway, if you go over 20 tracks and mayyebe close to 60 or 70(and when you record a full live band you can easy do it) than you will notice that protools comes in handy, becouse is supposed to that, and than you will know why is called PRO tools.

anyway got a mix to finish in ableton, going back to work ciao!

sadmac · Post by **sadmac** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:27 am

I have spent so much time in thinking to decide which software i am going to use to make my sound better.
The truth is that live is the most practical solution in making music, and that reactor has the best quality in sound ( a friend says that when u use sound from reaktor to another application it loses its guts

).

Anyway, i am thinking to buy pro tools. I just make music in my own nt a banc so i am very much worrying how much the use of pro tools affects the quality of sound.

For those who have worked on it : How is the environmet?
I hate cubase and nuendo...if taht helps.
Can you compare pt with logic?
Which one yo think do it better?

Please i need some wisdom....
Indeed there is a hype behind pt but is it worthy or not?

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:41 am

the thing with pro-tools is that it is the 'industry standard'...

that doesn't mean that it is gonna sound any better or worse... it just means that a whole lot of studios are running it.

djfm · Post by **djfm** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:24 pm

its not the software its the person controlling it that counts

"a bad workman always blames his tools"

my 2 cents

Michael-SW · Post by **Michael-SW** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:42 pm

Pro Tools is just another multi track sequencer. Not better, not worse. It has it orgins in multi track audio recording which still can be felt, while Cubase comes from the midi side.

But if you hate Cubase, you ain't going to love PT.

nz · Post by nz » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:16 pm

The ONLY feature that keeps me coming back to Pro Tools is the playlist feature. It is invaluable for tracking and comping. Other than that, it is all LIVE for me...

sadmac · Post by **sadmac** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:46 pm

Michael-SW wrote:Pro Tools is just another multi track sequencer. Not better, not worse. It has it orgins in multi track audio recording which still can be felt, while Cubase comes from the midi side.

But if you hate Cubase, you ain't going to love PT.

do you think that peak is good enough to do the same job as pro tools?

I am mostly interested not to create there but to edit, mastering my tracks...

njh · Post by **njh** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:14 pm

freshdrumma wrote:i own 2 fukin prottols rig,

really?

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:14 pm

They all act like.. "if it ain't done in pro tools it couldn't possibly be professional sounding"

that's a whole lota rubish!

the only argument that is correct is, that under certain circumstances live or other 'easy' progs don't have enough functions or possibilities.

e.g. if you have to work for certain clients for example, or do music for video, film, etc, etc.

but to say that you can't make a good track with anything else is just bullshit!

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:17 pm

sadmac wrote:

do you think that peak is good enough to do the same job as pro tools?

I am mostly interested not to create there but to edit, mastering my tracks...

if you are on a mac and you really only want to do editing / mastering, then PEAK5 all the way!

otherwise the heavyweight champions for that are SonicHD, Sequia and Pyramix

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:32 pm

Pro Tools = Overpriced DAW at every level.

You don't need Pro Tools Dude!

You don't need Pro Tools Dude!

well said

Re: You don't need Pro Tools Dude!