f**k the BCR2000, ReMote, monome, or anything else! LOOK!!!

Danny Futuro · Post by **Danny Futuro** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:21 pm

http://mawzer.com

our prayers have been answered!

quandry · Post by **quandry** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:24 pm

that website has been around for awhile and there's still no way to buy 'em, plus they look way expensive. I guess time will tell...

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:35 pm

it was tagged as vapourware due to its amazingly long lead in time from the original announcement at musicmesse march 2005 (?)

the original images were all 3d renders, there was a lot of hype. probably looking to build up investment based on shiny pictures alone.

but who knows, perhaps they are finally going to make or release one.

anyway - read around their forum for many tales of woe. Some people actually seem to have handed over money in the middle of last year and not taken delivery of a product?
http://www.mawzer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43

Danny Futuro · Post by **Danny Futuro** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:43 pm

damn, in reading this my wood has been sunk. it'd be nice if a company could just make a decent live controller...theyd sell tons! if you could mate a monome with a UC33e, then you'd have a winner.

if its got lotsa triggers, it lacks knobs/faders. if its got knobs/faders, it lacks triggers. the frustration just keeps mounting!

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:49 pm

I still contend that if the Abes hooked up with a Chinese manufactuer and produced affordable BCR-quality controller modules that replicated the Live interface and functionality, they'd make a killing.

If only they'd ditch M-Audio first...

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:02 pm

I'm not saying the Mawzer will never come out - only that they were very naiive in letting their drive for investment sour public perception , also they must have been very over-optimistic about schedules. The combination really made them look bad. But appearences can be deceiving.

one day they will perhaps make one and then sell it, perhaps even soon.
I'm an optimist on odd numbered days.

I would say that the way they have proceeded so far doesn't exactly inspire confidence to send them money through the interweb.

If they ever get international distribution sorted out (as they claim they have!) I may believe in them a little more.

sonsofthehounds · Post by **sonsofthehounds** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:43 pm

can't fault the old bcr for price and functions...all i need is a bunch of rotarys anyways....that and keys and I've got more than enough to work with.

John Sweet · Post by **John Sweet** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:10 pm

Mawzer nailed the modular thing, though. That's the way it's gonna have to be--a clip module, a transport module, Operator/Impulse/Simpler modules, different kinds of channel strips. Then everybody could be happy. I just wish it didn't have to look like a mixer. Mixers are so fugly + retro. I want the Fortress of Solitude controller.

http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/image ... reeve2.jpg

massiveheadpain · Post by **massiveheadpain** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:12 pm

been watching the mawzer for a long time and so far they havent been able to get the product out of beta. If they actually eventually release it, i would consider it a perfect solution to my needs. Its a great concept, and i hope they can make it happen!

Hatchets McGee · Post by **Hatchets McGee** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:08 pm

Angstrom wrote: anyway - read around their forum for many tales of woe. Some people actually seem to have handed over money in the middle of last year and not taken delivery of a product?
http://www.mawzer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43

I didnt see anything to suggest someone has handed money over...

seems like its on its way tho, if you check out this thread (pics from musikmesse '06)

http://www.mawzer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67

Pepehouse · Post by **Pepehouse** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:47 pm

Danny Futuro wrote:

damn, in reading this my wood has been sunk. it'd be nice if a company could just make a decent live controller...theyd sell tons!!!

Well, there's the Faderfox....

Danny Futuro · Post by **Danny Futuro** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:00 pm

Pepehouse wrote:
Danny Futuro wrote:

damn, in reading this my wood has been sunk. it'd be nice if a company could just make a decent live controller...theyd sell tons!!!
Well, there's the Faderfox....

i like the idea of the Faderfox, but the lack of USB and the fact that each one has to be plugged into a power source just doesnt make me want to buy one.

trip_out · Post by **trip_out** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:01 pm

I had the idea of doing this a number of years back, but decided it was far to expensive to make for the intended market (I'm an electronic design engineer who was pissed off with his job at the time!). Each little module would cost a fortune to make, and that cost would need to be recovered with profit.

Neat idea though.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:54 pm

trip_out wrote:I had the idea of doing this a number of years back, but decided it was far to expensive to make for the intended market (I'm an electronic design engineer who was pissed off with his job at the time!). Each little module would cost a fortune to make,

depends on how you do it... Obviously setting up hundreds of jack plugs on the bottom of a big flight-case is a ridiculously (And needlessly) expensive solution.

Pepehouse · Post by **Pepehouse** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:02 pm

Danny Futuro wrote:
Pepehouse wrote:
Danny Futuro wrote:

damn, in reading this my wood has been sunk. it'd be nice if a company could just make a decent live controller...theyd sell tons!!!
Well, there's the Faderfox....
i like the idea of the Faderfox, but the lack of USB and the fact that each one has to be plugged into a power source just doesnt make me want to buy one.

Who wants USB when you have MIDI? Faderfoxes can also run with batteries.