Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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dfusion
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by dfusion » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:47 am
This is more of a music 101 question for my own sake.
For those writing 4 on the floor music at 128+ BPM, do you initally lower the BPM during recording of your midi sequences...then increase the BPM afterwards to check out how it sounds at regular speed? I'm not all that experienced with 4 on the floor and it just seems more practical to record my midi sequences slower because I'm more precise and can get my performances down on the first or second pass. Recording midi performances at 128+ seems ok for pads but not for melodies.
Thanks....
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Lo-Fi Massahkah
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by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:53 am
While what you're saying is good for experimentation. It's quite hard to get predictable results since tempo very much affects the feeling or groove of a song. This kinda makes it unpredictable - although nice to find out new parts.
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by SubFunk » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:00 am
usually in the tempo of the song, for the reasons Lo-Fi Massahkah mentioned, sometimes in half or double tempo, but very rarely and only to achieve a certain "effect"
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minimal
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by minimal » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:55 am
I'm slave of 127 bpm. I find it is the perfect speed for the sound I do.
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by subterFUSE » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:40 am
I tend to DJ around 127 BPM
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DJ VAKIS
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by DJ VAKIS » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:02 pm
Usualy at 120bpm,but after i change the bpm to check how it sounds with faster tempo.
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by djadonis206 » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:06 pm
130 + Bpm's in this camp
I have no clue how to play the keys but I know what sounds good
I'll lower the tempo from time to time <-- that's the beauty of Ableton, you can do that if you work with loops
but honestly...uh oh here this fool goes again
If I hear a beat that has a hot groove from a old record or something I do 2 things
first I figure out what notes are being played by sampling a loop and playing along
then I take that loop and import it into recycle - turn the grid on and jack the groove
now I've got the notes and groove - I don't end up using the exact groove but I play with the notes and groove - different notes sound better with that groove, different grooves sound better with different notes
ok easy - I have all kinds of midi grooves taken from some of my favorites records
but dance is pretty forgiving when it comes to doing your own groove - sometimes the simpliest groove can be the most effective if you got the skills
peace out
Adonis
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mike holiday
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by mike holiday » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:30 pm
128-134
after a few months i change the tempo otherwise everything i did would be 130
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polyslax
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by polyslax » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:54 pm
No dance floors in my future!
Usually 80-100 bpm, sometimes up to 120.
Put up a track yesterday though,
Your Umbrella, at 65 bpm!
At my bpms no real need to slow it down to allow me to play it.
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SubFunk
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by SubFunk » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:13 pm
ahh, if the question is strictly related to BPMs, then i am all over the place not tied to any particular tempo here.
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Rabid
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by Rabid » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:22 pm
Depends on my mood. Sometimes I start by recording audio without a click track and then see what the temp is after the recording.
But if I choose a tempo it is most often 118. Not sure why.
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by djsynchro » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:22 pm
Lowering the BPM is like zooming in to edit you can play it "just so" then put the sequencer back at the intended BPM.

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by divonic » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:29 pm
I've been hovering around 105 BPM tho I've jumped around a bit. 103, 115, 120, 140. depends on the song.
as for adjusting the BPM to work on a track I never got into that you get used to a certain BPM and then when you change it it sounds different.