sync in bidule is to fast

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zendari

sync in bidule is to fast

Post by zendari » Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:02 pm

I am trying to sync using prosiniq Morph VST with 2 audio loops so I have set the 2 audio loops to sync with bidule rewire. the drum beat itself is 100 bpm and live is at 100 bpm but when I record its like I am making jungle what the hell is going on I feel like I am taking crazy pills. its on beat but twice as fast maybe more. I am using the new updated bidule on live 2.1 platform Mac 10.2.8 on a powerbook.

Guest

Re: sync in bidule is to fast

Post by Guest » Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:14 pm

zendari wrote:I am trying to sync using prosiniq Morph VST with 2 audio loops so I have set the 2 audio loops to sync with bidule rewire. the drum beat itself is 100 bpm and live is at 100 bpm but when I record its like I am making jungle what the hell is going on I feel like I am taking crazy pills. its on beat but twice as fast maybe more. I am using the new updated bidule on live 2.1 platform Mac 10.2.8 on a powerbook.
The current loop player in bidule does not do "guesswork" about the number of beats/mesures of a loop, and plays all loops as if they were only 1 bar long. Future versions of it will give much more options. staty tuned

zendari

Post by zendari » Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:49 pm

I am using the audio loop player in bidule. or is that what your talking about I hope not becuase if so that sucks. is there any alternative how to wire it in bidule to set up the right bpm then sync into live. I hope its something simple becuase if it isnt whats the point?

Guest

Post by Guest » Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:50 pm

zendari wrote:I am using the audio loop player in bidule. or is that what your talking about I hope not becuase if so that sucks. is there any alternative how to wire it in bidule to set up the right bpm then sync into live. I hope its something simple becuase if it isnt whats the point?
Live is allready the perfect loop playing app. Anything not like Live doesnt
automatically "suck" imho.

We have many things planned for the updated loop player, right now
its a simple loop player with DJ style speedups (no timne stretch)
whats the point?
Well 95% of all loops in my collection are 1 bar only, so for a first version,
we chose to make it siomple

davidv@plogue

Post by davidv@plogue » Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:51 pm

guess was me in the last two posts (sorry)

kermit the Lizard

Post by kermit the Lizard » Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:19 am

why aren't you playing the damn loop in Live anyway 8O

zendari

Post by zendari » Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:13 pm

I am trying to prosoniqs morph and you need 2 mono loops going into a stereo channel which I couldnt do in live. I got it to work in bidule no luck in live I would love to get some help to make it work in live for sure! :D by the way Morph is absolutly AMAZING!

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Post by Kerrydan » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:50 pm

Hey Zendari, 2 questions for you:

a) Out of curiosity, why don't you play the two loops in Live (ReWire slaved to Bidule instead) and then run the loop outputs from Live into Prosoniq Morph? (I'm guessing it's 'cause you prefer Live to be the master, but I just thought I'd check anyways). :)

b) I've heard a lot of rave reviews for Prosoniq Morph, but to be honest was less than wowed by the soundclip demos on their site. Could you do me a huge favour?

Test out the layout you see in the following image and compare how the output sounds between this and using the XY pad on the Morph GUI. I'm really curious to know if the Prosoniq plug is just doing a simple spectral fade with some nice-sounding filters attached, or if there's more to it.

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To make it work, just link the X and Y Position parameters from the Controller to the corresponding Fader parameter from the Crossfader bidules. In the example above I used Dunk's XY Controller VST plugin, but you can also use Bidule's internal XY bidule instead.

Thanks in advance!! 8)
-K

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