(OT) Yeah!!! the World Cup has started!!

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:24 pm

dancing Ray wrote:Oh no, Frings is suspended for the next match by the Fifa.

Italy will be beaten anyway.

Really ? That is so shitty, then you wonder about getting bad press, first Australia now Germany, and here it started even before the game it is so sissy!
Italians should think of some more effeftive way like " if germany wins we all go to Italia and take pizza, macchiato and espresso with us". Damn I would personally kidnap Klose, Balak even Klinsmann to let you win and me continuing living with those life essentials for working with Live.
come on, you could have won without such rat shit, but now you will loose- cosmic justice and mind you god (maradona) is gone to Argentina and Pope is German, it is over for you snitches

For those who dont know the story- it was Italians-TV and press who picked it up- the victim" Cruz Argentinian said that he wasnt hit or even touched by the Gerrman, anyway I better shut up, I live in Italian hood, so before my tires get slashed arrivederci Forza Italia!.Azzuri!

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:52 pm

rikhyray wrote:For those who dont know the story- it was Italians-TV and press who picked it up- the victim" Cruz Argentinian said that he wasnt hit or even touched by the Gerrman

Can you elaborate

dancing Ray · Post by **dancing Ray** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:59 pm

Selbst der angeblich betroffene Spieler hatte den Deutschen entlastet: "Ich habe keinen Faustschlag bekommen, zumindest habe ich nichts gespürt", hatte Cruz bereits gestern klargestellt.
taken from http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0, ... 93,00.html

"I wasn´t hit, at least I didn´t feel anything" that´s what Cruz said.

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:20 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:
rikhyray wrote:For those who dont know the story- it was Italians-TV and press who picked it up- the victim" Cruz Argentinian said that he wasnt hit or even touched by the Gerrman
Can you elaborate

there was this"bronca" after the match, some Argentinans, just few lost their controll, Rodrigues hit Schweinsteiger in his head from behind etc etc, in the and it is boys game and things like that can happen and though it came from Argentinians German players didnt even file any complain and had some understanding, it is hard to be out of champinship specially for people so temperamental and for whom football means that much as to Argentinians.
Anyone who knows something about the game knows that it is national pride ( that is why maradonas absence hurt Argentinians so much) After all they often play together in European clubs so it was all OK. Till those Mussolini reincarnation Beruusconis pitbulls, rats, snitches pseudeo journalists picked it up and with the help of mafia owned FIFA elimintaed Germanys the most valuable player from the game. Anyone in Germany in his right senses knows it sis not Italians, or Italian sportsmans who are responsible for that. Italian team is good enough to beat Germany without such "disgracefull" help from Berlusconis chainpigs.

dancing Ray · Post by **dancing Ray** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:47 pm

Great how you explain it, but

Italian team is good enough to beat Germany without such "disgracefull" help from Berlusconis chainpigs.

no it is not (and you know it

).

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:05 pm

jokes about dives etc aside, they have damn good players and unless they bring back Trapatoni and his boring concept it might be the best game of them all becuase both team are so spectacular and highly motivated. I would be pissed if i was Italian player , that some mafia assholes spoil my fun. Come on Italianos say, am I right ? You wont to beat germany and not win by default.
Personally I hope Germans win, apart from being resident of Frankfurt so it is my "patriotism" Germans victory may have extremly positive economical nfluence on that gig that i have on "final game" party in Marriot Bombay. I can see them trowing money , gold chains ( and females themselves) on "DJ from Frankfurt Germany" , no shit, it is kind of traditional thing, sposedly bringing good luck to the one who gives the offering, and indeed i garantee all the 24 carat items you offer to me will bring long healthy live and prosperity.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:05 pm

dancing Ray wrote:Great how you explain it, but
Italian team is good enough to beat Germany without such "disgracefull" help from Berlusconis chainpigs.
no it is not (and you know it ).

True. The Italians had a tie game with the USA. This would not have been the case had the USA faced Ableton.

stegi · Post by **stegi** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:07 am

we will win!

(e qui mi gratto ancora un po' i maroni)
rikhyray you should be better informed about political situation in italy, Berlusconi is out...now is Prodi's time.

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:13 am

stegi wrote:we will win! (e qui mi gratto ancora un po' i maroni)
rikhyray you should be better informed about political situation in italy, Berlusconi is out...now is Prodi's time.

iOf course I know, i am talking about the shit medias here, would never associate normal Italians or the governament with this "action".

stegi · Post by **stegi** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:25 am

anyway...i only want to see a good match....and the winner will be who will play better

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:56 am

what does it mean?
"e qui mi gratto ancora un po' i maron"

stegi · Post by **stegi** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:14 am

it is my usual ritual against misfortune...in english is something like "i scratch a little bit my balls".... or "touch my jewlery"....an italian ritual to remove misfortune

...strange italians ehehehehehe

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:37 am

No surprise my efforts with dictionary gave no resulty, very metaforic, of course nation of Dante!

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:49 pm

Jul 4 - Score at 90 minutes
Italy 0
Germany 0

How is this match going? Reloading Google hasn't been too excitin.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:59 pm

it's a pretty exciting match for 0-0

although half of germany had 2 heart attacks as 2 italian shots hit the bar in the first minutes of extra time.

91 mins: Alberto Gilardino squeezes into the box on the right, turns Christoph Metzelder and sends Jens Lehmann the wrong way but his stabbed shot rebounds off the post and trickles away to safety.

2154 BST: Germany kick us off for extra-time. Italy have made a second change with Vincenzo Iaquinta on for Mauro Camoranesi.

"A lot has been made of Germany's fitness training for the World Cup and they will need it as a second match on the trot goes to extra-time for them."
Mandeep Sanghera, BBC Sport in Dortmund

"Germany slightly improved and took the game to Italy, but Italy have been in command and we shouldn't be going into extra-time. They could throw this away. They are so much in control but are short of a good striker."
Chris Waddle, BBC Five Live Sport

END OF NORMAL TIME: That's that then for the time being. The 1970 semi-final between the teams is widely regarded as the best match in the World Cup. This will not match that 4-3 extravaganza in Mexico, but, with the excitement of extra-time we could still yet have a grandstand finish.

90 + 1 min: A free-kick to Germany deep down the left flank, but Sebastian Kehl's flick-on at the near post evades his team-mates and goes out for a goal-kick.

90 mins: Over dramatic from Sebastian Kehl. In the Olympic diving pool he'd have got good marks. Mauro Camoranesi gets a booking despite getting the ball. The first Italian booking of the night. There will be three minutes more of normal time.

89 mins: Simone Perrotta loops a long ball forward to Alberto Gilardino. The substitute cannot bring it down first time and by the time he does get it under control Philip Lahm takes the ball off him.

85 mins: Francesco Totti collects Alberto Gilardino's flick on and hooks a pass over the German defence for Simone Perrotta. Jens Lehmann makes sure he gets the man and ball. Not as bad as Harald Schumacher against France in Seville in 1982, but similar, and risky.

83 mins: Jurgen Klinsmann selected David Odonkor in his squad because he could give the side "something different". Well he's on now, on his home ground so we'll see what he can do. It is the second play in the coach's regular three-card trick of substitutions. Next up should be Oliver Neuville. Bernd Schneider trots off.

82 mins: No. Michael Ballack takes a two-step approach and whips his effort high over the crossbar.

81 mins: Lukas Podolski wins a free-kick on the edge of the box with Fabio Cannavaro ruled to be climbing all over the striker. It was actually in the box so initially a let off for Italy. Will they be punished from the free-kick?

80 mins: A goal now should be enough to secure a place against either France or Portugal in Sunday's final in Berlin.

79 mins: Another attacking raid down the left flank from Philip Lahm ends with a German throw by the corner flag. In the ensuing passage Michael Ballack lunges in on Gennaro Gattuso to concede a free-kick.

76 mins: Sebastian Kehl heads Gianluca Zambrotta's cross behind for a corner. Yet again Jens Lehmann is the man on the end of the corner as Italy waste another good opportunity in the attacking third.

74 mins: A first change for Italy. Alberto Gilardino replaces Luca Toni in attack.

PLAYER RATER: With no goals on the scoreboard it is no surprise defenders are catching your eye. Fabio Cannavaro leads the way with 8.63, while you rate Germany's top player as Jens Lehmann.

72 mins: Tim Borowski is the man to make way for Bastian Schweinsteiger, who started each of Germany's previous five World Cup matches.

70 mins: A first change of the match and it is a German one as Bastian Schweinsteiger strips off his tracksuit on the sidelines. Gennaro Gattuso goes down with cramp.

68 mins: Michael Ballack leads another German break but Gianluca Zambrotta steps in to cut out Tim Borowski's attempted cross from the left of the area.

"The German crowd are trying to lift their side and it seems to be working as the host nation begin to look more threatening than they have been all match."
Mandeep Sanghera, BBC Sport in Dortmund

67 mins: Lukas Podolski runs at the Italian defence but is well marshalled by Fabio Cannavaro on the right before the striker steps on the ball.

65 mins: That lull in play was clearly Germany girding their loins. They push down the left but are then on the backfoot as the mesmeric Andrea Pirlo works his way from right back to the centre circle with an exhibition of quicksilver feet.

61 mins: Here come Germany. Michael Ballack is up-ended by Marco Materazzi but the referee waves play advantage. The ball is worked to Lukas Podolski inside the area who turns and forces a reflex save from Gigi Buffon. Arne Friedrich smashes over the rebound. Jurgen Klinsmann smashes the living daylights out of a water bottle on the touchline in frustration at a missed opportunity.

"Germany are struggling to break down the Italian defence and could soon make an attacking change with David Odonkor, Oliver Neuville and Bastian Schweinsteiger warming up on the touchline."
Mandeep Sanghera, BBC Sport in Dortmund

59 mins: Francesco Totti is caught on the foot by a tackle from Sebastian Kehl but the Italian holds his face. What's that about? We don't want to go down that route.

58 mins: The pace and quality has dropped a touch.

56 mins: This really is breathless stuff, although the players get a well-deserved breather after Christoph Metzelder is booked for a challenge from behind on Luca Toni in the centre circle.

53 mins: The home fans like what they see. The decibel level has risen again but for the time being Germany are on the back foot after some poor defending by Arne Friedrich. Again Jens Lehmann dominates his box to claim.

51 mins: Now it's time for Jens Lehmann to react well, close the angle and smother a shot. Andrea Pirlo plays in Fabio Grosso who takes one touch too many when a first-time hit may have been the better option. In the end it doesn't matter whether he had one touch or 10 - the flag was up for offside.

50 mins: Miroslav Klose goes on a mazy run on goal, arrowing between Gennaro Gattuso and Fabio Cannavaro but Gianluigi Buffon comes off his line quickly to save the blushes of his team-mates and smother the shot which Klose gets out from under his feet.

48 mins: Italy are taking a bit of time to hit the tempo and rhythm they found in the first half.

2101 BST: Italy start the second half but Germany start the better, working a chance on goal which Sebastian Kehl, playing on his home ground, flashes wide.

"Germany need to up the tempo, get Michael Ballack forward more and get Bastian Schweinsteiger on. They need width, Tim Borowski is a central midfielder and doesn't like playing wide. Germany seem to have the shackles on for the first time in the tournament."
Chris Waddle, BBC Five Live Sport

2100 BST: The teams are back out for the second half.

RATER POLL: The number of you who expect this to go to penalties has almost doubled from 11% on 25 minutes to 21% on 45 minutes. 57% of you think it will still be decided in normal time.

"Italy have bossed the half and they will be kicking themselves that they haven't scored. It's the best they have played since the opening game against Ghana. They've linked up well and if Luca Toni can get into gear there's no reason they can't win. Germany haven't asked any questions and they are missing Torsten Frings."
Chris Waddle, BBC Five Live Sport

HALF-TIME: There is nothing to show between the sides on the scoreboard, but if it was a boxing match Italy would be up on points. They have enjoyed 59% of the ball, six shots on target to three and five corners to one. I wonder how the Klitchko brothers have marked it?

44 mins: Germany enjoy the better of the closing stages of the half. Fabio Grosso clears Philip Lahm's cross.

41 mins: It is another inviting free-kick from Andrea Pirlo. Mauro Camoranesi gets on the end of it in front of the first German defender on the right of the box but cannot guide his header on goal.

"Jurgen Klinsmann feels a sense of injustice. Italian skipper Fabio Cannavaro was not penalised for a tackle from behind but minutes later Tim Borowski was for the host nation. When he looks at the replays the German boss will see that while Cannavaro got the ball, Borowski did not."
Mandeep Sanghera, BBC Sport in Dortmund

40 mins: A first yellow card. Tim Borowski slides in from behind on Francesco Totti on the halfway line.

39 mins: Four months ago in Florence it was 3-0 to Italy at this stage. By comparison at least Germany are still in this game but Italy are increasingly dominant.

37 mins: After absorbing that spell of pressure Italy win another corner but, again, the delivery is poor. What can they do now with a free-kick by the corner flag? It's cleared but Germany are surviving by the skin of their teeth at times.

36 mins: Miroslav Klose and Bernd Schneider link up again. The big striker drills a cross over the area but Schneider is unable to get on the end of it.

34 mins: The best chance of the game and it goes to Germany. Andrea Pirlo gives the ball away and the hosts break, Miroslav Klose feeding Bernd Schneider on the right. He blazes his effort from the edge of the area just over.

32 mins: Sustained Italy pressure and three corners in quick succession. The first is headed clear and Jens Lehmann gathers the next two. A disappointing return for the Azzurri.

31 mins: Simone Perrotta releases Fabio Grosso who skins Arne Friedrich and races into the area playing in Luca Toni at the near post. Fortunately for Germany Per Mertesacker has shadowed Toni every step of the way and blocks his flicked effort on goal.

30 mins: Italy are on their toes from the resultant free-kick whereas Germany are caught on their heels. Andrea Pirlo pulls it back low to Francesco Totti but he is unable to thread a shot through the massed ranks of white shirts.

29 mins: Mauro Camoranesi twists Philip Lahm into the ground like a corkscrew with neat footwork and a quick turn by the byeline. He wins a free-kick.

27 mins: Bernd Schneider finds space and breaks on the right but sees his name up in lights. He opts to shoot instead of releasing Arne Freidrich on the overlap. His effort is blocked.

RATER POLL: What a start. End-to-end at a really high tempo and too hard to call according to you. Who will score first? 43% of you say Germany and 46% reckon Italy. But already 11% of you are preparing for the long haul and penalties.

24 mins: Another great chance for Italy but neither Luca Toni or Marco Materazzi can get their head on the end of Andrea Pirlo's whipped free-kick from the right.

"German striker Lukas Podolski urges on the home crowd who have been loud but not as vociferous as against Poland when the two teams played here in the group stages."
Mandeep Sanghera, BBC Sport in Dortmund

21 mins: Bernd Schneider's flat cross from the right is hooked goalwards by Lukas Podolski. Goalwards in the sense of that being the direction, but it is so high it loops over the netting in front of the fans. The striker attempts to whip up the crowd.

19 mins: Italy again look for a return down the inside left channel but the ball skips off the turf and through to Jens Lehmann.

16 mins: Simone Perrotta's heavy touch means Italy fail to seriously test Jens Lehmann with the best chance of the game so far. The Ashton-under-Lyme-born midfielder gets on the end of Francesco Totti's through ball and is clear on goal but pokes the ball too far ahead of him with his first touch and Lehmann smothers.

15 mins: Miroslav Klose climbs high to knock down a high pass to Lukas Podolski but Fabio Cannavaro comes in from the blindside at a rate of knots to clear.

RATER POLL: No surprise really that you think the key men in the match will be Michael Ballack and Francesco Totti. The German edges it with 47% of your vote ahead of Totti's 37%. With players looking to go down easily it could be that referee Benito Archundia will yet have the greatest influence over this match.

12 mins: There's a real zip to the game. Lukas Podolski turns on the edge of the area but his shot is blocked by Fabio Cannavaro.

11 mins: Philip Lahm gets on the end of Fabio Grosso's low cross and clears with Luca Toni lurking. Jens Lehmann comes for and misses a corner but his defence cover up his error to clear again.

10 mins: The piercing whistles mean Italy are in possession. The cheers mean Mauro Camoranesi's pass forward is over hit and bounces through to Jens Lehmann.

8 mins: Good close control from Miroslav Klose down the right. His pass into Lukas Podolski is played on to Michael Ballack, but his shot curves well wide of goal.

7 mins: Four months ago in Florence it was already 2-0 to Italy so things are already looking up for Germany.

5 mins: A slight scare for the hosts as Christoph Metzelder plays Jens Lehmann into a bit of trouble with a heavy back pass, but despite the keeper's clearance being charged down Germany escape.

4 mins: Francesco Totti gets a right-footed free-kick on target but it is easy pickings for Jens Lehmann.

2 mins: Italy have started well, but Germany get a chance to get some forward momentum as Lukas Podolski wins a dubious free-kick after a challenge from Gennaro Gattuso.

2000 BST: Germany's strike duo Miroslav Klose and Lukas Podolski get the game going. They have eight goals between them but will have to do something no other forward has done - score against Italy.