Your target audience...do you even have one?

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:45 am

my dogs

oh yeah my cats like it to

i make music for the dj's and dj for the dance floor

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:16 am

DeadlyKungFu wrote:Nobody. My mantra with Live is 'to make something I would buy' and to develop my scattered musical interests. I whore myself at a day job because they pay me, I'm not doing it at home.

Everyone else can go f--k themselves.

it's funny because when I first met my girlfriend about 6 yeasrs ago as she is a singer we got together and started doing some kind of "generic trancey pop" stuff - which even now if occasionally for some reason people hear it and get all wide eyed and say "why the hell didnt you do anything with this??"

and then I say that to be honest I couldnt find it in me to push it because I personally would not buy it. It jst wasnt what I'd listen to - more what was the obvious type of music to do at the time with the resources we had. And quite often the response is "yeah actually it's not the kind of music I buy either" so they were just impressed by the sound quality etc and that we were doing it.

so I see it as just a step in the learning curve - not wasted time, just another notch on the ladder

that's when I discovered that vocal stuff is not only the hradest because of the recording and songwriting aspect, but it is also the hardet to get right so that it's how you want to sound

still trying to find that BTW

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:19 am

djadonis206 wrote:
MrYellow wrote:So gave up on any thinking about what other people might like.

It's so counter productive.

When was the last time there was a good cult band that was aiming for a
market, they all build their cult/market by doing what they love.

The record companies and the trends follow the leaders not the other way around.

-Ben
Agree with you 100%

Who's leading what in the musical revolution that hasn't already been done though?

I mean Jimmy Hendrix was just doing the blues and mastered the guitar

the Beatles?

Jim Morrison?

Metallica?

The groups you mentioned all were trying to fit in to a scene of some sort, but they had other interests besides the music of their scene, and BAM! new music, people notice etc...
Jimi was doing the blues, got introduced to funk and psychedelic hard rock, and became his own thing. Metalica were metal heads that loved progressive rock, and punk rock, complexity and speed added to metal....
It's something you notice after a while, that the best groups and musicians sound like some genre with hints of others thrown in....

I guess my target audience is the Industrial/Goth crowd, with IDM, EBM, Breakcore, New Wave..... and Techno thrown in to give it something steady.

marky · Post by **marky** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:20 am

Mines, like your Adonis, is definitely for those on the dancefloor. But I like to think there are plenty around who, like me, play this stuff at home, in the car and at parties. I hear this shit in my head all the time and I'll keep making it until I drop ... but it helps to know other people are into listening to it and buying it too.

It makes it feel worthwhile to know you've got an audience..

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:42 am

According to Myspace, my target is 14-19 year old emo kids who happen to be into electronic music.

Weird.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:24 am

Machinesworking wrote: The groups you mentioned all were trying to fit in to a scene of some sort, but they had other interests besides the music of their scene, and BAM! new music, people notice etc...
Jimi was doing the blues, got introduced to funk and psychedelic hard rock, and became his own thing. Metalica were metal heads that loved progressive rock, and punk rock, complexity and speed added to metal....
It's something you notice after a while, that the best groups and musicians sound like some genre with hints of others thrown in....

I guess my target audience is the Industrial/Goth crowd, with IDM, EBM, Breakcore, New Wave..... and Techno thrown in to give it something steady.

Nail, Head - you hit it!

Adonis

Komplex · Post by **Komplex** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:52 am

my audience are people who want something more than pop music.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:53 am

djadonis206 wrote:Nail, Head - you hit it!

It's $99 for the converter at the Mac Store BTW, just found a 22" Cinema on craigslist!

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:51 am

forge wrote:
DeadlyKungFu wrote:Nobody. My mantra with Live is 'to make something I would buy'
it's funny because when I first met my girlfriend about 6 yeasrs ago as she is a singer we got together and started doing some kind of "generic trancey pop" stuff - which even now if occasionally for some reason people hear it and get all wide eyed and say "why the hell didnt you do anything with this??"

Brother, you kill me every single time. I met my wife 6.5 years ago, married her in October, she's got a GREAT voice. She's sung over some of my beats and it sounds great, the results were exactly as you noted, not our thing. This gives me motivation to try it all again, you two should too.

Some great posts. The stuff I do is made to make you snap your neck, headbobs, or 6 hours later when you're coming down. Lately it's been a lot of reggae, but it's all house, hip hop, reggae, mash ups and ambient soothing sounds. I am working to put some of my tunes up.

zfigz · Post by **zfigz** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:10 am

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:24 am

I'm thinking now........Maple (my cat) doesn't like anything music (no, not just me....) I'm wondering , if I can get her to like something..........maybe I've got something?

Ok.....it's a bit too bizarre to have a cat as your "target" audience........

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:22 am

DeadlyKungFu wrote:
forge wrote:
DeadlyKungFu wrote:Nobody. My mantra with Live is 'to make something I would buy'
it's funny because when I first met my girlfriend about 6 yeasrs ago as she is a singer we got together and started doing some kind of "generic trancey pop" stuff - which even now if occasionally for some reason people hear it and get all wide eyed and say "why the hell didnt you do anything with this??"
Brother, you kill me every single time. I met my wife 6.5 years ago, married her in October, she's got a GREAT voice. She's sung over some of my beats and it sounds great, the results were exactly as you noted, not our thing. This gives me motivation to try it all again, you two should too.

Some great posts. The stuff I do is made to make you snap your neck, headbobs, or 6 hours later when you're coming down. Lately it's been a lot of reggae, but it's all house, hip hop, reggae, mash ups and ambient soothing sounds. I am working to put some of my tunes up.

look forward to hearing them!

that's classic - are we on synchronistic paths??

OH BTW I've been putting some time into a mix with that fear and loathing sample on it, should have something to upload soon!

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:31 am

Hey Forge - which Fear and Loathing sample are you using? Classic film! I've been meaning for years to pull all the hilarious dialogue from it and stick on my hard drive as samples...

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:39 am

Patch wrote:Hey Forge - which Fear and Loathing sample are you using? Classic film! I've been meaning for years to pull all the hilarious dialogue from it and stick on my hard drive as samples...

Oh there are so many! but the one in particular was the kind of philosophical lament about tim leary "....all those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy peace and understanding for 3 bucks a hit......the desperate assumption that someone, or at least some force is tending the light at the end of the tunnel"

DKF quoted that exact same quote word for word in some other thread and freaked me right out!

I'll have a quick look at the mix I've been doing now and see if it's sendable - I've kind of got stuck on something - I think it was the bass line

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:45 am

Thanks forge.

As for my target audience... If it makes me smile - it's a good piece. I try to stick in as many elements to make me smile as I can. It can include film quotes, tv themes, cartoon quotes - the list goes on.

But if it makes me smile, it's gonna make others smile too.