Drag loop markers past end of sample (add silence)

Markeyz · Post by **Markeyz** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:48 pm

I demo'd Live when it first came out but didn't buy it until version 3. The ability to draw envelopes directly on the sample was the kicker for me. In particular the sample start envelope has been unexpectedly useful. I'd like to be able to take short percusive samples and loop them every four or so beats and then use the envelopes to create rhythms. I realize I could probably do this in the arrange view with loop markers but I bought Live for the improvisational nature and would like to be able to do this in the session view.

P.S. I'm a new user so it's quiet possible that there's already a way to do this and I've just missed it.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:08 am

You can do this in Live 3:

In the clip envelope section, click on the "Unlink" button. This separates the ENVELOPE length from the CLIP length.

Now, type a new length into the clip "Length" field. ie if you have a 1 bar loop originally, enter 4 bars or whatever.

Zoom out fully on the envelope view so you are now seeing the whole new envelope length (4 bars)

And voila, you now have 4 bars to draw envelopes in over the looping 1 bar of audio. You can add silence by selecting the clip volume field and drawing a flat line at the minimum value.

Turning on the little pencil icon at the top of the screen makes it easy to draw in quantised steps depending on the zoom factor of the envelope display.

hope this helps
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Markeyz · Post by **Markeyz** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:55 am

That's not quite what I'm talking about. I'm talking about very short samples like single drum hits. When I loop them I get rapid fire hits that aren't really in any time. I tried unlinking the volume envelope and silencing everything but the first hit but since the actual sample isn't looping in time I don't necessarily get a clean hit. If I could pull the actual sample loop marker out to even one beat then it would loop cleanly and I could use unlinked envelopes for everything else.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:21 pm

Ah I get it. You'll probably need to do a bit of a workaround as Live is set up more for loops than single hits. You could drag your drum sample on to a track on the Arrange page at the start of a bar, copy it to the next bar, and then consolidate the two hits into one longer sample.( highlight them both then hit command-J on a Mac) Now you can drag this new long sample to the Session view ( drag it to the circle with vertical stripes on the right of the screen) and do your looping/enveloping there.

Bit of a f***around....since you're working with single hits, why not do the basic pattern programming in the Arrange view and then consolidate and drag to the session view. Also have a look at www.ableton.com/index.php?main=tutorials&sub=tips1103 if you haven't already.

hope this helps

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