Live 6 review - part 1

[LOFA]

Does Live 6 have safe solo ??????????????????????????????????????????

i heard that if you solo with version 6, there a 30% chance it will automatically re-route the master output back out through the wall socket ..

thereby turning your entire house into a beacon for xenophopic space aliens.


so ... NO. would probably be the answer to that.


actually you can... whats more, you can modulate this parameter with clip envelopes


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Are we limited to eight knobs or is like a plugin, so that we can drop multiple into a track at once?

[supster]

Does Live 6 have safe solo ??????????????????????????????????????????

i heard that if you solo with version 6, there a 30% chance it will automatically re-route the master output back out through the wall socket ..

thereby turning your entire house into a beacon for xenophopic space aliens.


so ... NO. would probably be the answer to that.


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Well if this is true then those programmers are seriously thick.

oh, i know - you would think they could easily debug that bog standard space alien error.

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[Per Boysen]

There's a Note length midi plugin.

Nice! I love to play that parameter in running sequences

[Pandamonium]

Sweetjesus:-

Is it possible to load the content from the Kontakt 2 Library?

Does sampler allow using as a drum sampler ie:- Choke groups for hhats etc?

Have there been any changes to Impulse?

one of the first things I did was load up 3 samplers in a group and import 3 kontakt kits (electro kit 1,2, & 3) and make a kit from them but using the pitch plugin to transpose them all so i could have a kit that went right up the keyboard

to my knowledge there's no choke
But I was playing about with it a fair bit and did get a response from one of the abletons who was obviously invloved alot in the sampler and his comment was that sampler was not intended to be used as a big drum module

so it doesnt ,matter because I have been using it as one, but things like choke I wouldnt hold your breath

AFAIK the only change at all to impulse is there are now hot swap buttons on the slots

but of course the main thing is you can stack a bunch of them together to make a bigger kit

I actually whinged a bit because you cant apparently change the midi assignements for the impulse slot, so if you want to make a big kit you have to use a scale or pitch plug-in to get them on the right keys - otherwise they all are on C3-C4

but this is actually pretty easily worked around using scale I'm told - I used sampler with pitch plugs in the end because I still dont know how to use the scale plug-in - for some reason I'm scared of it

Was it kontakt 1 or 2 kits you imported?

If it's necesary to go to such extreme lengths with impulse just to get a regular realistic sounding acoustic drum sound, they should at least include some presets that allow multiple impulses to play back regular GM midi drum tracks and allow it to be triggered with Vdrums.

[Jim S.]

1. Has anyone tried the new EIC sounds? How is the quality? And do you have to buy the separate sampler to use those sounds, or can you load them up in simpler?

2. Does 6 (or 5, I'm still on 4) have the ability to loop sounds you are auditioning in the browser before loading them into your session, or are they just "one shots" when played from the browser? ummmm, b/c the vastly inferior ACID has had this useful feature since version 1.0a!

3. Does 6 (or 5) have crossfade capability, e.g. when I'm comping together a vocal track and want to smooth out the transitions between takes?

Thanks!

[noisetonepause]

1. Has anyone tried the new EIC sounds? How is the quality? And do you have to buy the separate sampler to use those sounds, or can you load them up in simpler?

I don't think anyone outside Ableton HQ has heard those sounds yet.

They will run in Simpler but you need Sampler to edit them.

2. Does 6 (or 5, I'm still on 4) have the ability to loop sounds you are auditioning in the browser before loading them into your session, or are they just "one shots" when played from the browser? ummmm, b/c the vastly inferior ACID has had this useful feature since version 1.0a!

3. Does 6 (or 5) have crossfade capability, e.g. when I'm comping together a vocal track and want to smooth out the transitions between takes?

None of these features are in the Live 6 Alpha.

[Jim S.]

Thanks for the answers!

It is kind of shocking that looping while auditioning from the browser is still not in LIVE!! You really can't get a feel for how well a loop will work when it's only played once. Good lord, this is the technology (and market?) leading looping program!

Seems like such a basic concept for live performing and for the studio. If you can listen to something in the browser, you should be able to listen to it the way it was intended to be used. A loop is a loop, not a one-shot!

[M. Bréqs]

the device groups have 8 knobs called 'macro controls' and these can assign any parameters in the device group and by note i should say that they can also control multiple parameters. we are waiting for focumentation but the 8 knobs on the macro will be hot swapped to 8 knobs on your controller depending on the channel which you have selected.

...I'm curious. One of the major stumbling blocks with me and Live Clips as introduced in 5 was that none of my midi mapping was saved with these clips. So, I never used 'em.

If I'm using one of these new instrument / effects racks, and I've mapped the 8 knobs, will it save midi automation?

Alternatively, this may be where the Remote SL series will really come in to shine... But it would be sweet if you could pre-map things to your midi controller and not have to re-map 'em when you drag in a new device or clip with (a) device(s).

MB

[Jim S.]

Thanks for the answers!

It is kind of shocking that looping while auditioning from the browser is still not in LIVE!! You really can't get a feel for how well a loop will work when it's only played once. Good lord, this is the technology (and market?) leading looping program!

Seems like such a basic concept for live performing and for the studio. If you can listen to something in the browser, you should be able to listen to it the way it was intended to be used. A loop is a loop, not a one-shot!

Hey, I just thought of something.

Would the new hot-swapping function in v6 be a workaround that allows me audition loops quickly, one after another, synced to the tempo of the song?

[peeddrroo]

Hey, I just thought of something.

Would the new hot-swapping function in v6 be a workaround that allows me audition loops quickly, one after another, synced to the tempo of the song?

i just tried it and yes, it works
when you click on the hot-swapping button (which can not be mapped by the way), it opens a new borwser folder called "temporary File", where you can see all the files of your current folder (ie the one where the clip is originally located).
you can then double click on any file, it loads straight into the clip, with your original warp settings and you can adjust the sample playhead.

so i guess it's gonna be a useful tool for DJs.

[roby]

A perfromance question to *non* dual cpu alpha tester..

how's the performance overall?
what about moving clips around and copying/pasting in arrange view. is the sluggish behaviour gone??

[Jim S.]

Great, and thanks for checking!

A follow-up question or two, if you don't mind:

What happens if the loop you are hot-swapping "in" is a different length than the one you are hot-swapping "out"? For example, one of them is 4 bars long and the other is 8 bars long.

Also, are you using Simpler for this?

[djsynchro]

Thanks for the answers!

It is kind of shocking that looping while auditioning from the browser is still not in LIVE!! You really can't get a feel for how well a loop will work when it's only played once. Good lord, this is the technology (and market?) leading looping program!

Seems like such a basic concept for live performing and for the studio. If you can listen to something in the browser, you should be able to listen to it the way it was intended to be used. A loop is a loop, not a one-shot!

You know what? You're right there should be a button for that. Feature request?

[Patch]

-EQ8 replaces EQ4. no more EQ4. but EQ4 settings are compatible and importable into EQ8.

Phew!

[Hedroom]

Just returned from a 2 week adventure far from any computer so excuse me if I've missed out on anything:

I assume there's still no groove template functionality?