Live 6 review - part 1

[sweetjesus]

...I just want to clarify tthat you can have groups within groups - so while you only have 8 macros to a group, each group within that group has 8 and you can go on like that forever - so you can see it creates enourmous options

and macro 1 controls the chain selection - which means within the first group you can have up to 128 devices within that chain (I think - 128 being the number of values on a midi control)
- and each of those could be another group, each of them with 128......

this is something I havent played around with a great deal yet, Hoffman2k is the man to ask details on that

OK, so back to the original question then. (allow me to describe a process as a prelude to the question...)

1. I create a "rack" (or whatever it's called).
2. I map a number of midi controls to the 8 rack controls (knobs).
3. I then save it as a preset.
4. I delete the rack.
5. I close the live set.
6. I open a new live set.
7. I drag in my rack preset...

Does my rack still have the midi mapping I set in step 2 above? I know with Device chains in v 5.2 all midi mapping is GONE. Do these racks behave differently?

i havent got to the part of my personal alpha methodology where i use controllers, but with computer key assignments, they are lost when savin presets etc.

but i think that this has been addressed in a different way.

with the automappin (which we are waiting for documentation on) the 8 knobs of the device group (macro controllers) will retain the way they are mapped to the devices within the device group, and those 8 knobs should automatically get assigned to your controller thru automap.

this could change or be refined in the final though.

[Machinate]

yes - automap (although that particular phrase is actually a Novation copyright - but I digress) is the way to go.

[Soarer]

Still no drum map in L6?

[sweetjesus]

Still no drum map in L6?

i do know that they have been looking at issues pertaining the loss of drum slot names when stacking impulses using the new device groups, and i personally think abes are looking for an elegant solution to this which would benefit anything which requires naming related stuff for piano roll related elements.

[Shoden]

Hi ableton live 6 crew, ok I need to know if this was implemented for the version 6.

First of all, will the A/B crossfade settings will be able to be save and recall tru easy reaching button?? Having only one crossfade setting is totally stupid for live use where you need to change all the time the A/B setting of all your track.

Also, VERY important, will live 6 be able to load VST instruments AND vst plugins when being a slave in rewire mode. Its a shame that you cannot do it in ableton live 5. Your stuck with only ableton live as master but i need ableton as slave with vstis and vst with samplitude as master that i would use as a DAW.

This way i have the most powerfull setup on earth ehehhe

thx for awnsering
alex

[Mike Goodwin]

Anyone know if they improved the "auto warp" features? This "auto" feature has never worked automatically. I would love to have a track warp automatically as advertised. Seems like a fair request.






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[C.S.]

I have a question myself if you don't mind. Is "play any but this one" or something similar now an option with follow actions?

[Martyn]

I have a question myself if you don't mind. Is "play any but this one" or something similar now an option with follow actions?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ow+actions

Seems like there's something similar.

[samesimilar]

I have a question for anyone using Live 6 on OS X 10.4: Does the search feature in the library use the Spotlight API?

[anti-banausic]

Hi ableton live 6 crew, ok I need to know if this was implemented for the version 6.

First of all, will the A/B crossfade settings will be able to be save and recall tru easy reaching button?? Having only one crossfade setting is totally stupid for live use where you need to change all the time the A/B setting of all your track.

Also, VERY important, will live 6 be able to load VST instruments AND vst plugins when being a slave in rewire mode. Its a shame that you cannot do it in ableton live 5. Your stuck with only ableton live as master but i need ableton as slave with vstis and vst with samplitude as master that i would use as a DAW.

This way i have the most powerfull setup on earth ehehhe

thx for awnsering
alex

I am not in the alpha, but I will say something, though it may be premature.

I just had a feeling. A feeling deep inside, oh no!

First, while the crossfader is a huge feature request for many people, I want to say that with the new multi-parameter to one controller functionality, crossfaders are going to be a thing of the past. Really, it may take a little more work to set up, but can you imagine the possibilities? two knobs, and you can control ten track volumes if you want, and each can be set to different ranges, or inverted. This is custom crossfading folks. Better than any adjustable crossfaders. Just open your mind.

Second. It is already established that for every feature request that we have made that is similar to pre-existing features in other DAWs, the Abes come to a very elegant, but slightly different, and often more useful, but again different enough to require us to think a little differently, solution.

We need to just wait for the beta, or for LIVE6. It is going to change a lot of how I work. I already know that. That is before Sampler, or the EIC, or whatever the soundset is.

my .02.
AB

[noisetonepause]

I have a question for anyone using Live 6 on OS X 10.4: Does the search feature in the library use the Spotlight API?

No.

And you can be pretty sure that it won't, as spotlight is not cross platform.

[KU]

Just returned from a 2 week adventure far from any computer so excuse me if I've missed out on anything:

I assume there's still no groove template functionality?

not a peep about it - but joy of JOY there is VIDEO!! YEAH WHOOPEE
who needs intelligent groove quantize when you can import some jenna jameson to splork too instead of grooving!

[Mike Goodwin]

Just returned from a 2 week adventure far from any computer so excuse me if I've missed out on anything:

I assume there's still no groove template functionality?

not a peep about it - but joy of JOY there is VIDEO!! YEAH WHOOPEE
who needs intelligent groove quantize when you can import some jenna jameson to splork too instead of grooving!

I will get use out of the video but dam groove quantize is OLD tech. It would be nice to have in live that is for sure. I would have used it today in fact in stead of manualy moving every note by hand!

[deva]

Does my rack still have the midi mapping I set in step 2 above? I know with Device chains in v 5.2 all midi mapping is GONE. Do these racks behave differently?

No

that is unfortunate... especially since Live6 will be able to set up more complex midi mapping with multiple parameters per controller... this loses much of the appeal of that feature since you will have to create complex mappings again everytime from 0

[Nod]

that is unfortunate... especially since Live6 will be able to set up more complex midi mapping with multiple parameters per controller... this loses much of the appeal of that feature since you will have to create complex mappings again everytime from 0

Agreed - surely some kind of saveable preset system can be implemented for this pre-release?