Live 6 review - part 1

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Post by M. Bréqs » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:12 am

Machinate wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote: AH! but did you see the post where robert mentions that because of video features there is now the ability to set an audio clip to master? This makes the warp markers in that clip work like a tempo map for the session.

I'll bet you can get some pretty crazy groove out of that.

i know, it ain't exactly whast you want, but i'm excited about it.
This feature didn't exactly get me all that excited. But then I thought: This must be PRECISELY the kind of feature that rocks for groove templates. Then, being alpha-tester and all, I decided to test it out.

Results are in: It effin' rules!

(disclaimer: note that as an alpha all features are subject to change and so on)
Here are two recordings I did: Each contain a breakbeat, an impulse beat quantised to straight 16s and an Operator loop quantised to straight 16s.

The first one is notably "out of the pocket", since the breakbeat shuffles quite a bit. It's actually painful listening to the midi sequence of the drums over the break! (esp the first impulse snare hit - WAY OFF)
Out of the pocket!
The next one is a lot more like it: Note the cheap hihat pattern from the impulse really locking with the break. No midi notes have been moved!
in the pocket!

This is awesome, extremely useful, and way better than most groove template stuff I've seen - you can easily tweak or "massage" your groove throughout an entire song if you want to.
Brilliant examples by the way!

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Post by Machinate » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:58 am

M. Bréqs wrote: Brilliant examples by the way!
Thanks! I can't help but feel that there are more suitable breaks out there to work from - any ideas, anyone?
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Post by supster » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:37 am

Machinate wrote: This is awesome, extremely useful, and way better than most groove template stuff I've seen - you can easily tweak or "massage" your groove throughout an entire song if you want to.
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so ... you can pull on the warp markers in the "master" track and this is how it fine tunes??

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Post by Machinate » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:42 am

Supster: yes - thats how it works.
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Post by Kodama » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:01 pm

Could someone please tell me if you can assign aftertouch to anything via midi remote?
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Post by peeddrroo » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:15 pm

Kodama wrote:Could someone please tell me if you can assign aftertouch to anything via midi remote?
there's a "Ch Pressure" modulation available in sampler.
is that the same as aftertouch?

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Post by Shoden » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:25 pm

WILL THE VSTI BE SUPPORTED IN LIVE 6 WHEN IN SLAVE REWIRE MODE?????????????????????????????

YES OR NO???

why dont you awnser?

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Post by forge » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:28 pm

Shoden wrote:WILL THE VSTI BE SUPPORTED IN LIVE 6 WHEN IN SLAVE REWIRE MODE?????????????????????????????

YES OR NO???

why dont you awnser?
it's been answered many times now

NO

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:29 pm

Shoden wrote:WILL THE VSTI BE SUPPORTED IN LIVE 6 WHEN IN SLAVE REWIRE MODE?????????????????????????????

YES OR NO???

why dont you awnser?
No

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:30 pm

Must have been an echo. I didn't type that previous reply :wink:

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Post by Machinate » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:31 pm

the main thing is why you're humouring the bugger?

If you were a store clerk would you help out a screaming customer?
- No, you'd tell them to calm down or leave.
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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:33 pm

Machinate wrote:the main thing is why you're humouring the bugger?

If you were a store clerk would you help out a screaming customer?
- No, you'd tell them to calm down or leave.
"No" is shorter. :wink:

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Post by Machinate » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:35 pm

yes, but then what happens the next time he wants to know something?

We'll talk some years from now when you're a dad as well... the quick solution just isn't good enough ;-)
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Post by Kodama » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:39 pm

peeddrroo wrote:
Kodama wrote:Could someone please tell me if you can assign aftertouch to anything via midi remote?
there's a "Ch Pressure" modulation available in sampler.
is that the same as aftertouch?
Yep, but I wanted to know if Live can now "Learn" Ch Pressure (aftertouch) as any other midi controller?

:idea:
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Post by Machinate » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:40 pm

No, unfortunately. At least not in this alpha.
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