Quite dissapointed to Sampler

deva · Post by **deva** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:24 am

GaryTracks wrote:I also agree about NI. I love Battery, but I'm grateful that i don't have to consider buying Kontakt, thanks to Abes' new SAMPLER. But......

My number one priority is to play AKAI libraries. Maybe i'm in the minority, but my basic needs are for a sampler-player. Tweaking is great, but I need good instruments, right away, from the Akai discs.

This is my first pause in my excitement for Sampler. It will be useless for me if the IMPORT functions are messy. Surely Ableton will be on this...???

I'd really like to hear if anyone has had success importing sample libraries of any format. Kontakt's NKI does not seem to be working, but how about other formats?

darrelldiaz · Post by **darrelldiaz** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:45 am

I had 2 crashes today trying to import my "Synclav FM" Akai-formatted CDROM into Sampler.

Only partial success with the factory EXS24 sounds too. Sampler should be intelligent enough to search the EXS Factory Samples folder before propting you to find it with a dialog box I think.

I'll try "Distorted Reality" tomorrow...

-DD

darrelldiaz · Post by **darrelldiaz** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:24 am

Distorted Reality imported into Sampler fine. Didn't check every single patch , but it all seems to be there...

coldmachine · Post by **coldmachine** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:32 am

Check out what happens with multi zone patches with different envelope etc settings.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:21 pm

leave all 'lacks' behind,

Sampler is AMAZING!
It is such a powerfull sound designing tool..
Routing and most features are so clever and unique..
FM osc is absurd; love it..

conny · Post by **conny** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:31 pm

deva wrote: I'd really like to hear if anyone has had success importing sample libraries of any format. Kontakt's NKI does not seem to be working, but how about other formats?

I have had success with most soundfonts (sf2). But for some the looping was wrong.

// C

forge · Post by **forge** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:49 pm

deva wrote:

I'd really like to hear if anyone has had success importing sample libraries of any format. Kontakt's NKI does not seem to be working, but how about other formats?

I've only got K1 but the NKIs I've imported have seemed okay to me

MathematiK I · Post by **MathematiK I** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:18 pm

drez wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:It's not a workaround. It's not like you're handling multiple vst's.
You're handling mulitple integrated devices. Which makes a stack of Samplers one device with a lot of options.
The key/velocity mapping is handled by the instrument rack that contains multiple devices.
Which can be ANYTHING. You can add impulse devices for choke groups, Simpler's for pitched percussion, operator/sampler with the sounds you created...
You can have individual effects for each device. Which also may contain a rack that responds to key/velocity....

It's not a workaround. It's the new way of working
Actually, Reason has been doing this for awhile now with the combinator so I wouldn't exactly call it new (I guess new to Live users)...

...but I am estatic that Ableton has jumped on this type of modular environment. It makes it all the easier for me to get my head around it and gives everyone more flexibility than they think!

Could reason3 open a combinator within a combinator within a combinator within a combinator ????

Don't know, only had a chance fiddle with reason on a friends comp.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:42 pm

MathematiK I wrote:
drez wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:It's not a workaround. It's not like you're handling multiple vst's.
You're handling mulitple integrated devices. Which makes a stack of Samplers one device with a lot of options.
The key/velocity mapping is handled by the instrument rack that contains multiple devices.
Which can be ANYTHING. You can add impulse devices for choke groups, Simpler's for pitched percussion, operator/sampler with the sounds you created...
You can have individual effects for each device. Which also may contain a rack that responds to key/velocity....

It's not a workaround. It's the new way of working
Actually, Reason has been doing this for awhile now with the combinator so I wouldn't exactly call it new (I guess new to Live users)...

...but I am estatic that Ableton has jumped on this type of modular environment. It makes it all the easier for me to get my head around it and gives everyone more flexibility than they think!
Could reason3 open a combinator within a combinator within a combinator within a combinator ????

Don't know, only had a chance fiddle with reason on a friends comp.

no, it can not do that..

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:45 pm

I would say that when I make a Live Rack within Rack within Rack, my brain starts to smoke keeping track of the racks!

I have to work it out on a piece of paper, otherwise it all gets very confused in that little window.

what rack am I in?

MathematiK I · Post by **MathematiK I** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:29 pm

I agree it is confusing ....

but writing your routings down aint such a bad thing when you can see how monstrously complex it can get now ... also with the added ROUTING OPTIONS which people hav'nt been talking about alot in the threads but contribute to live's added flex. and complex.

when I sit down with live 6 , I feel like wile e. coyote...
trying to build a crazy contraption on blueprints..
and with my ACME tm controllers...
eventually I get my blown by my own inventions !!!
and that's why we love LIVE.
i said it once and I'll say it again :
"ONCE YOU GO RACK - YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK..."

Robert Henke · Post by **Robert Henke** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:43 pm

It`s the nature of things that every feature addition unleashes new desires.
We are aware of the fact that a complex routing could benefit from a better visualisation. Maybe some day there will a way to display a diagram of the structure, but this is beyond the scope of Live 6, sorry.

Robert

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:51 pm

Robert Henke wrote:Maybe some day there will a way to display a diagram of the structure

yeah.. an Operator-algorythm styled diagram-display would look great..!

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Poster wrote:
Robert Henke wrote:Maybe some day there will a way to display a diagram of the structure
yeah.. an Operator-algorythm styled diagram-display would look great..!

Yeah, I already see it in front of me.
A little diagram that shows a rough structure of the rack. The objects that resemble a rack are lists that can be folded or unfolded. The list contains the names of the plugin used.

But it's probably not that simple, because you would want interaction with the diagram. It could perhaps be laid out as a minibrowser with subfolders.

ze2be · Post by **ze2be** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:34 pm

Machinesworking wrote:I was just hoping for more out of Sampler, but I'm starting to see a pattern here in the built in instruments, they get you up and running quick, but for the uber geek user like me, they don't offer enough.

Its not uber geekish wanting to use akai programs!! Its the biggest sample library file format!

Quite dissapointed to Sampler

Sampler Akai Import...

Akai import..