glitchrock-buddha wrote:robtronik wrote:john gordon wrote:rob,
with all respect due.why do you always back our current administration?dont you know how corrupt and immoral they are.you seem like a pretty intelligent guy,but i think you have been listening to a little too much of michael savage.the people in office now are not good people.they are the biggest terrorists on this planet and they will pay.oh yes they will pay.
Frankly speaking, because I support Bush's foreign policy direction. I also think he is a decent man despite what many think of him (as far as politicians go).
Secondly, all I ever hear as an alternative to countering terrorism in the middle east are exactly the things that helped create it over the last 30 to 40 years. So, frankly speaking, removing Saddam, the Taliban, calling out Iran, supporting Isreal, trying to put a democracy in place in Iraq and downplaying our support for Saudi Arabia are an acceptable alternative to me based on what has been attempted in the past.
Hamas, Hez, Al Q., despite support in the middle east, need to be fought like we fought other fascist dictators in past wars. They espouse an ideology that is not acceptable to me - and many others like me who support liberalism (not in the partisan sense), democracy, and freedom of religon, press, thought, and expression amongst other things.
There are things I disagree with Bush about of course. But with regard to our general direction, I want it to succeed. Do I wish it could be executed better? Of course, but that does nothing to waver my support for putting ourselves in the middle east in the manner we have to change the terms and the field over there.
so, there you have it.
.02 and all that,
rob.
But don't you think that Bush has made the threat of terrorism worse? At the time of 911, most of the muslim world thought favorably of America, and it was always getting better. Now, post afghanistan, post iraq, about 5% of muslims think favorably of America. For pretty good reason from their angle.
Your administration represents the agenda of an industry. One that happens to make weapons and stuff you need for war, and are paid for their products by the american people. War is good for business. And the top business people of the profiting industry happen to be tightly knit into the upper level of the american executive, who therefor make policy based on the lure of said profits.
So the military business is booming. More terrorists are being created daily. This in turn will create further threat, but hey, that ain't so bad, 'cause then the necessity of a market for military products/weapons in america is assured, since we'll need to go fight them terrorists!
Look into patriot act 2 and tell me this administration wants to preserve the constitution. They are bad people who like money.
grb
per the bolded part above: Well, the U.S. hasn't been attacked since 9/11. So no, I'd say that the actions of removing a safe haven for terrorists in Afghanistan and getting them to focus on the warfront in their backyard (Iraq) has done a LOT of damage to them. Otherwise, they would be attacking us again. But it hasn't happend.
Secondarily, the act of creating more terrorists? You mean, as opposed to what had already been created before Bush even got into office pre-9/11? This has been festering for quite a long time before Bush got into office. He's decided to hit it on its nose now instead of pussy footing around and accomodating islamo-fascist idealogues who want to blow up people in the name of their cause (you know, like every time Hez launches a rocket into Isreal with the express intent of killing civilians instead of targeting the military).
Well, sure, its possible that you are making more people angry, but which people? the ones who were already disposed to hating us anyway? And besides that, we don't and can't shrink away from the fight as it has been laid out in front of us by appeasement or more accomodation of these repulsive ideals they hold for sharia law and fascist ruling over their people/governments/ and/or locals.
This is espeically critical in today's world where Weapons of Mass Destruction are attainable (re: see Iran. Make note. Watch.), can be used, deployed, without the resources of a nation like the U.S., Germany, or the U.S.S.R, etc. Rogue elements can hurt western nations more easily in today's world.
The time is now to take the fight seriously and do what we have to. First and foremost is to cripple and wipe out the obvious infrastructure supporting terrorism. Then we systematically work with nations to keep them at bay. Then we begin the hard work of rebuilding and supporting that region's change into democracies - or at the minimum, removing Wahabism and fascist rule.
.02 and all that,
rob.
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