Ableton takes 130 - 2 mins to start up ?

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PookyNMR
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Post by PookyNMR » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:51 pm

I have an iBook G3 500, 576 MB RAM w/ Live. Live 3.01 with OS 10.3.2 loads up in less than 20 seconds. It's working here.

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Post by jamief » Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:33 am

PookyNMR wrote:I have an iBook G3 500, 576 MB RAM w/ Live. Live 3.01 with OS 10.3.2 loads up in less than 20 seconds. It's working here.

Nathan
Do you use Vsti's in another program that reside in your vst plugin folder ?
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Post by FORMAT » Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:33 pm

Mine also takes 30 seconds and up, which for today's machines is simply too long. Any solutions?
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Post by Alex » Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:57 pm

Hi folks,

it is right that as more files and are in the the VST foldersand subfolders, as more time Live need to start up, because we have to look and compare these files with the internal list save in Live's preferences. Unfortunately some VST plug-ins install other files within the VST folder or subfolders.

As far we know other VST host applications having similiar problems. So far the only solution is to remove unused VSTs from the VST folders.

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Alex
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Post by FORMAT » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:06 pm

Alex,
mine takes more than 30 seconds despite the fact that no VST plugins are installed as i'm on OS X, Logic.

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Post by jamief » Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:10 pm

Alex wrote:Hi folks,

it is right that as more files and are in the the VST foldersand subfolders, as more time Live need to start up, because we have to look and compare these files with the internal list save in Live's preferences. Unfortunately some VST plug-ins install other files within the VST folder or subfolders.

As far we know other VST host applications having similiar problems. So far the only solution is to remove unused VSTs from the VST folders.

regards,
Alex
or

It may be possible to locate the Dat files of ie Atmosphere, stylus and others to a different folder outside the VST plugins folder. I will try once i have got some time. At the moment i have several pieces of work running with deadlines to them.
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Post by hat » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:33 pm

I just installed Panther and the latest Live upgrade and now I'm experiencing this as well. Live takes nearly an entire minute to boot up! I have very few VST effects (only the ones that came with Computer Magazine last month), that's it. Never had that problem before in Jaguar, same effects, etc.

Alu-Powerbook 1.25ghz
Panther 10.3.2
1GB RAM
80GB HD
120GB LaCie D2 FW drive
Live 3.0.2
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Post by potts3 » Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:25 pm

Well now it is clear from looking at the Pref. log that for me Live was looking through all the virtual guitarist data that was stored in the VST folder..I moved the VG files and startup is about 90 sec. now instead of 3 minutes.

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Post by Guest » Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:22 pm

potts3 wrote:Well now it is clear from looking at the Pref. log that for me Live was looking through all the virtual guitarist data that was stored in the VST folder..I moved the VG files and startup is about 90 sec. now instead of 3 minutes.

steve
I have duplicated this as well. Start up time down to about 1 min approx. An improvment but still pretty slow.
Unfortunately all the vsti's plugins At,mosphere, V guitarist etc etc are now being asked to be re-installed. This is a big pain in the posterior ! i thought this may happen 8O :x .
If you move the data content for your Vstis back into the vst folder it still asks for the plugins to be re-installed. i advise you not to do this unless you wish to spend an afternoon re-installing your plugins :x :x :x :x
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Post by jamief » Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:24 pm

Anonymous wrote:
potts3 wrote:Well now it is clear from looking at the Pref. log that for me Live was looking through all the virtual guitarist data that was stored in the VST folder..I moved the VG files and startup is about 90 sec. now instead of 3 minutes.

steve
I have duplicated this as well. Start up time down to about 1 min approx. An improvment but still pretty slow.
Unfortunately all the vsti's plugins At,mosphere, V guitarist etc etc are now being asked to be re-installed. This is a big pain in the posterior ! i thought this may happen 8O :x .
If you move the data content for your Vstis back into the vst folder it still asks for the plugins to be re-installed. i advise you not to do this unless you wish to spend an afternoon re-installing your plugins :x :x :x :x
That was me :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
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Post by potts3 » Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:58 pm

There is a way around reinstalling the Spectrasonics stuff. I have done it. I am sorry to say I can't remember how. I will think hard!!! Posting over on the Spectrasonics list may be in order.

I know I have run into this w/ Stylus and Atmosphere.

I am going to be having the same difficulties in the next few days as I move files to a new Firewire 800.

steve
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