A Bug? Loops Who's Orig Tempo are under 81 BPM...

EkkoMusic · Post by **EkkoMusic** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:34 pm

I think I've found an actual bug.

I'm using Live 3.0.2 on two systems:

iMac G4/800 OSX 10.2

iBook G4/800 OSX 10.3

Same problem on each:

If I drop a loop into Live who's original tempo is under 81 BPM, it automatically doubles the tempo in the Warp section, and the loop plays back half as fast as it should. I've experimented with this with both premade loops from various libraries, and also my own homemade loops made in Reason.

If the tempo is 80.8 or higher, Live finds the "correct" tempo an alignes everything very nicely.

If the tempo of the original loop is 80.7 or lower, the original loop's tempo is doubled and plays at the "wrong" speed.

Made no difference if the loops were 44/48 or 16bit or 24bit. Same thing.

Also, this experiment was done with Live running as both a standalone and as both a Rewire master and as a slave to Cubase. Exhibitted the same problem in all scenarios.

Also, this behavior is exhibited regardess of what tempo Live is set to.

Same problem on both Mac systems that I have, which are running different OS's as you can see above.

Can anyone else confirm this for me on their own? Can someone else try dropping some 60 or 70 BMP loops into Live and seeing what tempo pops up in the "Warp" window?

Thanks

Paul

madlab · Post by **madlab** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:31 am

I'll try this. But you can always apply the x2 command for the tempo in the tempo information box of the sample.

ekko · Post by **ekko** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:02 am

Yeah, I did just read that in the manual, but it seems so odd that it so consistantly happens with tempos uner 81 for me. I'm wondering if it's creating .asd files incorrectly that I can "fix" so that they continually come up at the correct tempo?

madlab · Post by **madlab** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:15 am

Multiply or divide the false tempo by 2 then save your new settings with the save box of the sample editor. Next time you'll use this sample, it will have the correct tempo. Of course things would be simpler if the correct one was set up by Live in the first place. Ableton's word ?