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Shebb
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Making lessons...

Post by Shebb » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:29 pm

I was wondering if it was possible to use the $Link command to create a link to different pages of the 'lesson'. I want to compile a reference to various things in my set and it would be nice to have a contents page that allows quick access to other parts.

Thanks!

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:31 pm


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Post by Shebb » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:19 pm

Yes, but this only details how to stick in links to the web. I want to link different pages in the manual together. This is done in some of Ableton's lessons, but these files are locked into resource files. However, this means it should be possible somehow. However, I have not found any other lesson examples that do this.

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:30 pm

Here's an example of how the main page is linked to the operator page

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Click $Link here <Product:Operator> to open the Products tab.

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Post by Shebb » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:35 pm

Unfortunately that will just bring up the products page in the preferences window. But it does show that the $link tag can do more than open up web pages.

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:36 pm

Shebb wrote:Unfortunately that will just bring up the products page in the preferences window. But it does show that the $link tag can do more than open up web pages.
My bad ;)
Wrong lesson file.

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:42 pm

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-> $Link Change log Live 5.0.3b6 - 5.0.3b7 <GotoPage:2>
So this would be the relevant bit "<GotoPage:2>"

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Post by Shebb » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:43 pm

You see I was thinking of using this feature to build a crate of sorts. I would make a seperate page for each of the tunes that I have processed and added to my playlist. In a contents page I could link them up by genre, label, bpm, etc. Each page would have some art on it so I could recognize songs by other things than their titles. I would also add in information like keys, components of the intro, and notes on what I have found are good tricks: what effects work well, what tracks are good to mix into, do they sound good sped up or slowed...

It would be nice to have this all in a side panel and some sort of contents system would be nice to have. If it is not availible this kind of functionality could really be stuck in by the team easily because it already is there, if not currently exposed

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Post by hoffman2k » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:55 pm

I agree. A little button that lets you go into text edit mode or something like that..

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Post by mikemc » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:14 pm

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30525

:lol: not to worry, I wished this for you some months ago ... :wink:
UTENZIL a tool... of the muse.

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Post by Shebb » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:57 pm

Cool that others have some interest in it too. Is this on the developer's list at all? This kind of functionality really should be a simple thing and something that does not get in the way of anything else. I really would love it if the 'link' function could link pages together though. I am sure it is something implanted that just needs to be exposed to the users.

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Post by Shebb » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:24 pm

Cool that others have some interest in it too. Is this on the developer's list at all? This kind of functionality really should be a simple thing and something that does not get in the way of anything else. I really would love it if the 'link' function could link pages together though. I am sure it is something implanted that just needs to be exposed to the users.

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Post by eddit » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:45 pm

yeah this would be great. When I first thought of it, I was hoping it was goingot be html, but they have used a very cut down markup. Its perfect for lessons, but unfortunately is pretty tough to completely explode into a new useful feature like this. if it was running html support, then you can bring in javascript or whatever you wanted to implement this.

But then ableton would actually be shipping a web browser free within the app, so it makes sense this isnt the case. 8O

I have been trying to come up with some cool solutions to making more of the lessons area, but nothing really so far. You could generate a bunch of pages in perl behind the scenes, but i still don't see a way to make something very useful.

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