How to get a Warm Sound?

cartel00 · Post by **cartel00** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:00 am

Since I will be using mostly Digital processing, vsts, sequencing and not analog... I was wondering how can I warm up my sound... I mean really warm up the sound... I was this to resemble sounds that are or almost like organic and analog sounds. Nothing too clearn. I will be making more downtempoish trip hop sound... not techno or uptempo things which might benefit from digital recording. So if you guys can mention ways I can achieve such a warm sound, or vsts that can achieve this... Id really appreciate it. Thanks.

Winterpark · Post by **Winterpark** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:23 am

you could use some 'warming vst' effect like psp vintage warmer, or even abletons Saturator.

but also more fun tricks.....

one is setting up a mic and re-recording parts through crappy hi-fi speakers.

or, you could run things through external gear.... guitar fx pedals/amps etc...

or put it onto an old tape deck, with the level recorded quite high, and re-record the results....

dubbyah · Post by **dubbyah** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:53 am

put your speakers in the oven

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:20 am

dubbyah wrote:put your speakers in the oven

other suggestions:

a blanket
ketamine

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:48 am

good points about recording through a mic

reminds me of that Album by Talvin Singh (Tabla player for Bjork and many others) - I read an interview where he said for some keyboard sounds he used to put them into a guitar amp then mic it up

course there's Ableton's new dynamic tube in L6

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:55 am

Turn up the heater in yo studio

cartel00 · Post by **cartel00** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:10 am

hey thanks for the replies althought sarcastic ones like over and blanket ones are as usual expected... um... forge I am acutally a fan of Talvin Singh a lot, he has been a big influece on me (Traveler, his back to mine CD, and O.K.)... Um I dont have room for outboard gear... so as of RIGHT RIGHT now I dont have a mic... is Vintage Warmer any good though>? ...

zstowasser · Post by **zstowasser** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:12 am

Use alot of EQ on each instrument to increase warm frequencies and lower harsh frequencies.

Use an EQ on the master channel and cut alot of the upper highs (15k and up).. or use a lowpass filter.

PSP Vintage Warmer makes things thick and fat.. try messing with the mix setting and turn up the drive!

There are analog modeling processors (compressors/eqs/etc) use them on the master channel or on individual instruments.

Your output will still be 'digital', if you want an analog sound you will have to run all your stuff through outboard gear.. analog compressors/eq/reverbs.. I've also heard that if you mix down your tracks on an analog mixer it does wonders.. read it somewhere but haven't tried it. has to do something with how the sounds are combined digitally vs analog.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:32 am

cartel00 wrote:hey thanks for the replies althought sarcastic ones like over and blanket ones are as usual expected... um... forge I am acutally a fan of Talvin Singh a lot, he has been a big influece on me (Traveler, his back to mine CD, and O.K.)... Um I dont have room for outboard gear... so as of RIGHT RIGHT now I dont have a mic... is Vintage Warmer any good though>? ...

I meant to say you could try something Like guitar rig or amplitube, or if you have reactor the guitar sim things in there

I never really liked vintage warmer - but that's just me - Dynamic tube in Live 6 is intended for this exact purpose

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:31 am

have you used dynamic tube? I've messed with it a few times and it seems rather lame. maybe you can enlighten me cause I just don't get it.

I really like the new analog in saturator though

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:39 am

Johnisfaster wrote:have you used dynamic tube? I've messed with it a few times and it seems rather lame. maybe you can enlighten me cause I just don't get it.

I really like the new analog in saturator though

it's a mysterious beast that's for sure

it is totaly down to what you're using it on

I was about to post a thread "am I missing something" then I thought I'll have one more play and started trying it in different situations then I discovered the merits of it

it definitely doesnt just work out of the box

Robert said something about the key to it being in the envelope

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:46 am

You could also look at ValveTone 62, ColorTone and HydraTone.

Yes on Vintage Warmer as well.

Check the Sonalksis and URS eqs and comps.

You should start with some nice warm VAs as well, unless you're all sample based.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:41 am

what about the nomad factory signature analog pack? limiting amplifier and studio channel strip. Looks similar to vintage warmer.

anyone tried this?

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:58 pm

I'm bumping this because it's something I've been giving alot of thought to lately.
I'm also looking for something vintage warmer-esque, but for intel mac. I've been really going after that Boards of Canada type sound. I guess not just warm, but also kinda lo-fi/overdriven, but smooth.

Has nobody tried nomad factory stuff? I just tried to download the demos of the limiting amplifier and the analog channel, but I guess they don't work in demo mode.

Sometimes I've gotten some cool results out of dynamic tube, but only in some cases. Saturator is great for some things, but not exactly what I'm after.

I've found you can often get good results by applying a lowpass filter, and some saturation/overdrive and compression. That seems to be the combo that usually works, and the combo present in any "warming" plug, along with multi-band processing sometimes. I posted about camel crusher a while back, and I find this can sound great used in moderation. A touch of tube overdrive, roll back the filter a touch, and some medium to heavy compression. But again, great in certain situations.

I've been trying camelphat, and I thought I was going to buy it, because I reckoned it must be everything camelcrusher is and more, thus fulfilling my "warming/phattening" needs. But actually, as great as it is for distortion and modulated filtering, it has a slightly different character. The compressor actually sounds different, so I'm not sold. I actually prefer camelcrusher for subtle applications, it can sound somehow softer.

Anyways, just spilling my thoughts out here. I'm also looking at predatohm. It's got multiband compression/distortion, which is cool. we'll see.

Other ideas?

grb

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:06 pm

dubbyah wrote:put your speakers in the oven

That's funny

record out to your mixer and record back into your computer

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