Akai MPD-24 Vs korg Pad Kontrol

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:56 pm

I'm so torn!

KPC :

- Lights (although pink)
- XY Pad
- Roll functions (although you can replicate these with Ableton's Arp)
- Can get it now...

MPD-24:

- Pressure
- 8 Knobs
- 6 Sliders
- Transport Buttons

Whadda you guys think?

rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:31 pm

Kodama wrote:I'm so torn!

KPC :

- Lights (although pink)
- XY Pad
- Roll functions (although you can replicate these with Ableton's Arp)
- Can get it now...

MPD-24:

- Pressure
- 8 Knobs
- 6 Sliders
- Transport Buttons

Whadda you guys think?

SUV or coupe ? Potato or orange? You answered yourself listing the features.
I dont need another set of transport buttons,have lots of better faders,etc Korg felt better to play and YOU CANT REPLACE THE PAD WITH ARP.!!!!!!!!!! That feature is so hot playing live percussion, I have lots of fun, very expressive, at the moment the most important controller for actual playing, since I am better percussionist then keyboarder,
Also very portable and cameramen /audience seem always fascinated by the lights!!!
None is better or worse just more suitable depending on what individual needs

azurescens · Post by **azurescens** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:07 pm

a few weeks ago i was wondering the same thing, i was also considering the trigger finger, but in the end i decided to go with the pad kontrol, i own a bcf2000 and a bcr2000 already so i don't really need faders or more knobs, and the x/y pad was a great addition, the pads feel great and the lights are a nice bonus.

as the other dude said, it comes down to what you need, if you don't have other midi controllers, then the mpd-24 could be a better option for you, you get transport controls, faders, knobs, bigger lcd, etc, in my case i had those cover so i went with the pad kontrol because of the x/y pad and the lights, and i'm glad i did.

btw, here's another pic of the padkontrol, on the image form your message the upper part (where the lcd and the knobs are located) looks like black plastic, but it's actually more like a mirror kind of thing.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:16 am

here's one for ya.

the pad kontrol will allow you to plug a pedal up to it and trigger the kick from the pedal, , if you're the type that likes to bang out beats and really get into it then that's a pretty dope feature if i don't say so myself.

try that with the mpd 24, oops, you can't. that thing is to damn big, you might as well get an mpc-1000 instead

tumult · Post by **tumult** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:24 am

the pad kontrol is nice, but make sure you test out your pads a lot right after you get it. a couple of mine were bad and would stick constantly, leaving long stuck notes in the recorded midi. personally i like the akai pads better, but the mpd24 still isn't shipping (as far as i know) and it had a lot of extra fiddly stuff that i didn't need on an mpc-style drum pad. the korg has some extra fiddly stuff, too, but there's less of it. i'll probably try out the mpd24 in a store whenever it ships, though, to see if i like it more.

husker · Post by **husker** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:14 am

MPD24 not due to ship until the end of the year...

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3220

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:38 pm

Ya all things considered, I think I'm going for the Korg.

Wish it had some faders, but my X-Station has some....

Thanks for th tips peeps!

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:57 pm

Ok I got the KPK...

I'm kinda still warming up to it.

One thing that pissed me off was that in the Korg Micro Kontrol - Pads that were set to toggle mode showed their status with the lights (on for on off for off) so you got nice visual switches, in the KPK - the lights only show on all the time for CC# and flash when hit on note #...

I REALLY wish there was a way for the KPK to receive note#'s to toggle the lights on & off, because Live could control the lights & give you intelligent feedback....

Maybe if we all beg Korg?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:05 pm

Actually. You should beg to Machinate

That crazy Dane figured out how to control the lights independantly in native mode.
Or something like that.

If he wasn't so busy now, he would probably already made a monome out of 4 padkontrols

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:14 pm

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............

Using Max or what?

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:23 pm

Can't find the post, would you have a link mr hoff?

adam_harzuf · Post by **adam_harzuf** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:52 am

Hello all,
I'm trying to decide myself too about this. I never played with such a device, actually.
My wishes are easy switching between the following modes (if it can be done):

1. The usual mode of recording a drum kit into one channel that has a sampler like Battery.

2. Recording a few instruments parts over a few channels simultaniously (a "scene" with all relevant tracks armed pad is a certain key, and on the pad controller each), each has a synth (probably some midi channel split option needed, but which is only viable on a preset, not global, in order to switch back to the former mode).
So I'm not just talking about trigger mode (synths usually don't work in trigger mode, AFAIK), but the pad should act as a keyboard in a way- It would be ideal if I didn't have to use quantization and the pad made a varying legnth notes, depending on the time it took me to release the pad, just like a keyboard.
From Korg:

A MIDI message can be assigned to each pad, and they can be set for momentary or toggle operation. In addition to sending a value as the pad is touched, a specific value can be sent as the pad is released, so they can be used like buttons or switches to control any function on your soft synths and DAWs.

So, is it adaqute?
Also.. Can I assign just one pad to a certain mode (gate/trigger), or is it preset/global setting?

3. "Scene" or "clip" triggering mode (probably route the pads to a dedicated midi channel, right?)

Other things:
I would like to drum quickly on a single pad with my index and middle fingers(to make 1/16 notes for example). So I need the pad to be big enough (my fingers are medium size) and to have a good response to velocity not only in the center and generally be adaquate for I don't know what reason.
I can see that the Korg's pads are barely big enough, and if they are sufficient they better respond to velocity really good even on the corners! (for "diagonal" playing)

The korg has that rolling option. That's great. How easy is it to make exactly the drum you wanted roll?
Also, can you roll from the bass pedal?

Thanks for the help guys
Adam

adam_harzuf · Post by **adam_harzuf** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:57 am

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:28 pm

Adam, I think you're over-thinking this - they both work as you want - "Momentary" triggering is just like a regular keyboard - of course!

I have big hands, and I can pull off two-finger rolls on the PadKontrol without any problems. And the triggering works well all the way to the edge of the pad.

When I tried the MPD-24 at MusikMesse in Frankfurt I could *not* do a two-finger roll on it without losing notes. The triggering was VERY good on the MPD, but not at all in the same league as the PadKOntrol.

Dunno if you can roll on the bass-drum. Try downloading the manual from the Korg website... I suspect that will yield more answers than bumping this thread.

Best,
Andreas.

azurescens · Post by **azurescens** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:11 pm

@adam_harzuf: I don't see anything in your post that can't be done easily in the padkontrol, but i'm way too drunk, so don't take my ford for it.

there's a video demonstrating the padkontrol in korg's website, and also sonicstate.com have a very similar one.

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2683
http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_pro ... egory_id=8

And here's the link to get the owner's manual and the quick start guide.

http://www.korg.com/service/support.asp?A_PROD_NO=KPC1

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