ability to disable clips and knobs in 6, why?

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ability to disable clips and knobs in 6, why?

Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:29 pm

I can only assume you would disable a send knob to save cpu or something ?

but why on earth would you disable a clip? why not just remove it.

I'm missing something I know it.


(this is in reference to version 6, where you can right click on clips and knobs to disable them)
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Post by Machinate » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:38 pm

Disabling clips:

This is so you don't have to move them to muted clips, save them to the browser and so on, if you want to try out a session without that particular clip. I agree in part, I've only used it a couple of times, but it definitely IS a useful feature to me.


Disabling sends:

If you feed a delay signal into itself you create a feedback loop. Some, like me, LIKE those, and use them all the time, but in performance a feedback loop can pretty much blow up systems and burst ear-drums. I think this is the rationale for disabling - fool-proofing of the live set.
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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:54 pm

Machinate wrote:Disabling clips:

This is so you don't have to move them to muted clips, save them to the browser and so on, if you want to try out a session without that particular clip. I agree in part, I've only used it a couple of times, but it definitely IS a useful feature to me.


Disabling sends:

If you feed a delay signal into itself you create a feedback loop. Some, like me, LIKE those, and use them all the time, but in performance a feedback loop can pretty much blow up systems and burst ear-drums. I think this is the rationale for disabling - fool-proofing of the live set.
ok I can see the rational for disabling sends, I too love the feedback but it makes total sense to safegaurd it. but I still don't really get the idea of disabling clips. I guess I can see someone using it but I can't imagine myself thinking it's necessary... I would just hit mute...
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Post by rbmonosylabik » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:10 pm

I usually create MIDI parts with VIs and to save some processing power record the output to an audio track when I want to keep the release. (freeze cuts it when the clip stops). So, when I playback, I disable the MIDI clips so they don't get in the way.
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Post by shurik » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:45 pm

I once dissabled a clib because it was in a scene I had to trigger in a certan show, and I didnt wanted this clip to start with this scene, but I was also using this project for other shows WITH this clip, so while creating and improwising it is really usefull, its like muting a part in cubase, without muting the whole slot/ channel.

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Post by Nixon » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:06 am

but why on earth would you disable a clip? why not just remove it.
I use it for notes in my set!

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Post by friend_kami » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:46 am

i can definetly see the use for disabling clips, and i think i like it!
cant really see why it took them this long to figure it out though. ;)

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Post by hambone1 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:50 am

I use it for notes and labels, too.

I also use it to disable the IAC, BCR, LX-2, and FCB1010 mappings I don't want to accidentally trigger for that particular show.

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Post by peeddrroo » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:52 am

i often disable clips in the arrangement when i'm not sure whether i want to delete a clip or not.
that way, i "mute" the clip without losing all the editing (automation and so), and without doing more automation on the mute button.

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Post by Michael-SW » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:50 am

Disabling a clip seems like useful for creating on the fly variations of a scene. Disable one clip, un-disable another and trigger the scene etc.

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Post by anti-banausic » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:03 pm

friend_kami wrote:i can definetly see the use for disabling clips, and i think i like it!
cant really see why it took them this long to figure it out though. ;)
twas actually in 5 too, but you knew that.

It is really functional for one of the above mentioned reasons. You create a MIDI part, resample the output, but want to keep the MIDI, but don't want the clip playing.

And for hambone's reasons as well. I would say that it is just one more of the functions that make LIVE such a good "sketch pad" for many. Don't delete it, just deactivate it.
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Post by friend_kami » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:45 pm

ofcourse i knew that.
*cough*

/me feels silly and hides.

actually, i havent looked for it, so i didnt know that. then again i havent been using live for that long either :)

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Post by anti-banausic » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:50 pm

Just giving you a hard time. :lol: :wink:
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