deva wrote:knotkranky wrote:deva wrote:
It will be a cold day in hell before I vote Democratic Party
Then hand it to bush
If that must be so, then so be it.
If we got criminals on the left and criminals on the right, then I am not going to vote for either of them.
One of the leading conservatives recently said that conservatives should stop voting republican. He said that the leadership of the republican party has betrayed conservative principles and that even if they lose some elections, it is better to build upon what they believe rather than be suckered into voting for someone they do not want.
I have yet to hear anyone from the liberal establishment take such an intelligent position.
Absolutely the only thing the dems are offering me is that they are not bush. If they think they are going to get my vote with such an empty platform, then they are wrong. If they want my vote, they will have to take some positions that are of value to the average citizen, and then actually mean it. They will have to actually stand for something.
We basically have a 1 party system with 2 management teams vying for who gets to lead in an already chosen direction. I refuse that and so will continue to vote for 3rd party candidates, left or right, who I believe have some integrity and stand for something.
Your republican said to stop voting republican, not stop voting. And yes, party politics change, positions shift and evolve. All parties go through this. Ideas and politicians are always at odds internally so it's not an intelligent position, it's a fact of all political life.
Participation is always better than non participation. Doing anything is better than doing nothing. You need to vote. Pick a party that meets your expectations as close as possible and vote. It's never perfect but it is all anyone has ever had. I won't convince you of which party at this point, and note that my choices for congressional seats are strategic and a cock block on bush, but vote for something. The message that you affirm, even for the underdog is important to the ones who are governed and that's all of us. What good is protesting without a message. Make a protest vote if you have to, but vote.
It is important to note again that this is not a presidential party vote. Make a strategic vote to block republican seats in november and vote libertarian in 2008. Work the system and hog tie bush. The time is now.
Here's a list of balloted electoral parties:
Republican Party
Democratic Party
Libertarian Party
Green Party
Constitution Party (formerly the U.S. Taxpayers Party)
Here's a big list of political parties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po ... ted_States