Anyone got advise on the pro's n con's of Faderfox?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:26 pm

And live 6 has pickup mode and soft take-over.

elektrovert · Post by **elektrovert** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:33 pm

b0unce wrote: i
two lv1s = 16 faders ... ya, we face the same problem if we want to control more then 16 tracks......

not if you have multiple MIDI inputs, then you can add another 2 LV-1's to your setup!

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:05 pm

naturally....

that was said in example.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:07 pm

elektrovert wrote: not if you have multiple MIDI inputs, then you can add another 2 LV-1's to your setup!

why stop at another two, why not another 14? if you have an 8 input midi interface

elektrovert · Post by **elektrovert** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:50 pm

if only I had that many fingers!

sweatyr · Post by **sweatyr** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:01 am

I guess it's my first post.
I'm thinking about getting one LV2 and I was reading all the comments about faderfox and still have some questions about faderfox.
How do I know the fader's position when jumpming around banks?
Are the encoders endless?
Are you satisfied with your LV2 if you are using one?

X-rated-beat · Post by **X-rated-beat** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:42 am

i have just gone all live for djing after 20 years with wax.

i have tried various controllers - but the fader fox modules have to be the best in my eyes- and as for the 6x 2 groups of faders on the lv2 i bought another lv2 so i have 12 at hand.

i now have the dj2 for basic dj stuff two decks etc.
a lv2 for samples/loops and vst instruments,
then a second lv2 for my main effects controller,

all i am thinking off getting now is the push button version for opening and closing my returns/effects so one effect does all channels without overloading my cpu with multiple versions of the same effect.

the x&y controls X 3 will be, one for grain delay as this is an awsom effect
for warping sound then i am planning on controlling some of abletons vst maybe.

but the best thing about these is the size, small so i can bang 3 or 4 modules in a mini style coffin case eventually- just add my new music laptop and sound card and ready to play out / go pro lol.

so it all depends what you want - but for mobility and features it has to be the faderfox range,
just wish they would do another with say twelve + little faders a bit like the EQ sections on some of the vestax mixers or an all rotary version this would be better for the effects section, i say faders though too as i found controlling my effects with the faders on my lv2 a lot more flexible than rotary, better cutting in techniques.

so anyhow i recommend these sexy little babes.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:49 am

X-rated-beat wrote:i have just gone all live for djing after 20 years with wax.

i have tried various controllers - but the fader fox modules have to be the best in my eyes- and as for the 6x 2 groups of faders on the lv2 i bought another lv2 so i have 12 at hand.

i now have the dj2 for basic dj stuff two decks etc.
a lv2 for samples/loops and vst instruments,
then a second lv2 for my main effects controller,

all i am thinking off getting now is the push button version for opening and closing my returns/effects so one effect does all channels without overloading my cpu with multiple versions of the same effect.

the x&y controls X 3 will be, one for grain delay as this is an awsom effect
for warping sound then i am planning on controlling some of abletons vst maybe.

but the best thing about these is the size, small so i can bang 3 or 4 modules in a mini style coffin case eventually- just add my new music laptop and sound card and ready to play out / go pro lol.

so it all depends what you want - but for mobility and features it has to be the faderfox range,
just wish they would do another with say twelve + little faders a bit like the EQ sections on some of the vestax mixers or an all rotary version this would be better for the effects section, i say faders though too as i found controlling my effects with the faders on my lv2 a lot more flexible than rotary, better cutting in techniques.

so anyhow i recommend these sexy little babes.

Interested in a faderfox LX1?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... t=faderfox

X-rated-beat · Post by **X-rated-beat** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:53 am

are you selling one or getting one ?

WaveRider · Post by **WaveRider** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:05 pm

hoffman2k wrote: Now it's time to get the hardware developers to stop releasing 800 different models of shitty usb keyboards.
And actually produce something useful for a change.

Lego should make midi hardware

well said!

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:11 pm

X-rated-beat wrote:are you selling one or getting one ?

edit...

Nevermind. It's sold.

icedsushi · Post by **icedsushi** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:59 pm

I have LV2, LV1 & LX2.

The midi feedback feature of the second series is really cool. Don't overlook that when comparing them against others. You don't have to look at the computer screen quite as often.

icedsushi · Post by **icedsushi** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:02 pm

b0unce wrote:version 2 of the faderfoxes is based around the number 6.....6 faders. for 6 tracks...or 12 tracks.....i dunno, I think he went crazy ditching 8 faders in favour of 6....I pretty much wont consider any controller unless it can fit into this basic requirement...

version two faderfoxes....man, it would annoy me even using ableton live (the strange number of faders thing) , but it would definatly render the controllers as useless for me outside of ableton live.......

I hope he realises his mistake for the next units he releases. just one dilletant's opinion.

Makes sense in writing and looking at the picture, but did you actually try the LV2?

I have both the LV2 and the LV1. Actually I prefer 6 faders over 8 with that same size box. Since I got the LV2, it became my main mixer controller and the LV1 took a backseat as a dedicated synth controller. It's great on the LV1 that 8 faders are packed in such a small space but 6 is the perfect spacing to move a single fader without your thumb rubbing against adjacent faders and moving them too, accidentally. On an LV2 w/6 wider faders, you don't have to be as meticulous about not touching the other faders which means you can really dig in even though it's a small controller.

Somehow 12 tracks seem natural to me too. It's minimal enough to get around my set quickly and I can always add and "un-control mapped" track or two at the end for my arrange page if I have to.

Because they are spaced unevenly in groups of 2, the LV2 makes it really easy for me to grab a fader in the dark (without counting left to right) and know exactly which channel I'm on. With the LV1, the tiny nubs are closer together and all evenly spaced, so often I find myself moving one to the left or right of the one I intended. It's hard to explain, but if you get your hands on both of them side by side you know exactly what I mean.

LV2 doesn't have a crossfader like the LV1, but you can relax the palm of your hand without screwing with your crossfader setting. You kind of have to arch your palm over the crossfader when tweaking the LV1 faders. Without the crossfader, there is also more visual LED feedback of what you're doing. LV2 longer joystick really makes a difference if you like to grab a joystick instead of pushing it with one finger. I also like the added LV2 convenience of having one dedicated knob for scenes and one dedicated knob for tracks. The LV1 only has one knob that you have to shift.

I would say with it's undetented knobs and variety of controls, the LV1 is a tweaker's paradise. It's great. But the LV2 is more ergonomic, intuitive and even easier to get around on a Live set. That's why I kept the LV1 for a dedicated synth tweaking controller.